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edwest2 29th July 2022 22:50

Re: Death of Hitler - 1945 or 1962?
 
Seeing people is one thing but getting the FBI to accept such reports is another. There is a penalty for filing a false report with the police in the U.S. The FBI had a secret presence in South America during the war. The Special Intelligence Service was concerned with German influence in South America and gathering intelligence regarding certain countries and individuals.


See: The Origins of FBI Counterintelligence by Raymond J. Batvinis.

Franek Grabowski 2nd August 2022 16:26

Re: Death of Hitler - 1945 or 1962?
 
Well, there was no information of Hitler being dead at the time, and it is not fully confirmed still, so no wonder that there were searches for him. Still, such observations of people looking alike, and documents of dubious authenticity are not evidence.

edwest2 2nd August 2022 21:34

Re: Death of Hitler - 1945 or 1962?
 
Franek,

Have you seen any of the FBI reports? These documents convey precise information, not speculation. Had this been an open and shut case, the FBI would not have accepted such reports since Hitler and Eva Braun were both dead.

Franek Grabowski 3rd August 2022 16:33

Re: Death of Hitler - 1945 or 1962?
 
I think so. Back at the time there was no, I repeat no information about Hitler's fate. There are many reports of the period, which were then considered serious, but now they are just ridiculous.
If I would have to follow conspiracy theories, I would rather expect Hitler being finished by his men, perhaps Himmler or Goering gang.

edwest2 3rd August 2022 18:30

Re: Death of Hitler - 1945 or 1962?
 
Franek,

You are engaging in useless speculation.

richdlc 3rd August 2022 18:51

Re: Death of Hitler - 1945 or 1962?
 
is this nonsense still going?

Leendert 4th August 2022 17:11

Re: Death of Hitler - 1945 or 1962?
 
We can safely assume that Hitler is dead, either in 1945 as widely accepted or, notwithstanding all conspiracy theories, at a later date simply of old age.

Regards,
Leendert

edwest2 5th August 2022 01:35

Re: Death of Hitler - 1945 or 1962?
 
As I wrote, the term 'conspiracy theory' has no meaning. The FBI accepted reports about two people who, according to widespread stories, were dead. Why would they do that? An FBI document dated September 1, 1944 indicates that Hitler could flee to Argentina if he lost the war.

Franek Grabowski 6th August 2022 03:58

Re: Death of Hitler - 1945 or 1962?
 
Gosh, have you read those reports? Someone met someone in a Hollywod bar, and the person told that Hitler is in Argentina. I liked the comment, that the best place for Hitler to hide is New York City, where he could merge without trace.

edwest2 7th August 2022 02:02

Re: Death of Hitler - 1945 or 1962?
 
Franek,

I've read the reports, with titles like "Hitler and Eva Braun, Information Concerning"

One report details a man going to a particular location in South America. This town is populated almost entirely by Germans. He spots Hitler and Eva Braun and asks someone who works there about this. He is told to say noting further or his life might be in danger.

People are generally unaware of the German population in South America.


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