Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

And a new Bf 109 K-4 pic showing W.Nr. 33. 148 at Gardelegen:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Org-Photo-Ab...oAAOSw4A5YrdSt

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

And now a question about Bf 109 G-8 W.Nr. 201 765, currently offered on sale at eBay:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/137-Orig-Foto...wAAOSwWxNYyuDy

This picture is a known Signal Corps photo, from the James Crow collection, and already published by Janowicz in 2007.

Unit and location are unknown, Western Front, late 1944 or early 1945. I suspect a 2./NAGr. 13 machine; any confirmation possible ?

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hi,

I wonder if it wasn't one among the many JG53 machines got by JG300 ...

Cheers, Franck.

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Franck,

Thanks for your input; this a G-8 though, a recce machine...

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

????
Strange ...
I thought I was answering to this link/comment ..
See my post #160 here: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...=45190&page=16
...
A case for the "X Files" ???? or just because I'm getting older ... and tired???
:)

Sorry Guys.

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

At long last a new Erla built Bf 109 G-10 shows up:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Org-Photo-US...sAAOSwhURZfP9m

The dilapidated dark RVB band could point towards a JG 27 machine. Any other information would be highly appreciated.

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Sorry Marc, but not a G-10; and not new, either.

I knew I recognized that FW 190 wing from somewhere.

Interesting to note the difference in deterioration in both photographs.

http://i.imgur.com/xCG13H6.png

And from your Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...7631640557758/

"G-14 'Gelbe 4' 3./JG 27, Salzburg-Maxglan, 1945"

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

And it appears the Americans were flying a K-4...

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

:piliot:

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Many many thanks, Jasate, for putting me back on the right tracks !

Much appreciated
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

A new picture from a Bf 109 G-14, "Schwarze 35", 6./EJG 1, Mühldorf am Inn, April 1945. Source: photo Sgt. Felix Miller, 80 C Company, 8th Armored Division.

photos.google.com/share/AF1QipN0HP7mL-vGlp1Bo3Sb07d4uzxd1DKjRLg1nc0uR0eXD6FdGXPleU9bN98B WTwFVw/photo/AF1QipMLE5nIt29DldPJCyLdHX1d-5rA17IkFdEaBJ4q?key=NnlYcXRCYnB0UXp3Zi1RTjZqWHFmTl FCU0xGUjlR

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Marc

Link does not work for me.

Thanks
D.B.

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hi there D.B,

Here we go: I just checked it. Hope it works for you too.

Cheers
Marc

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...FmTlFCU0xGUjlR

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Works now. Thanks, Marc!

Cheers,

D.B.

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

A very peculiar Bf 109 K-4, sporting a replacement Erla Haube with G-6 type antenna...

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Jagdflie...oAAOSweJ1Zxk2M

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Similar to No 15 in Sirbob's post?:

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=49270

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Dear all,

I was given - courtesy of Gordon Permann - this very clear shot of a nosed over Erla built Bf 109 G-10 or G-14, as seen at war's end.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...in/dateposted/

Given the II Gruppe bar with white surrounding, I wonder if this could be a II./JG 52 machine ? Could it have a landing mishap whilst reaching Neubiberg in the morning of 8 May 1945 ? Could anyone shed some light on the actual background of this shot ?

Thanks in advance
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

lots of 109 stuff on a web site 'relics from the front' is this guy genuine or are histories dubious?

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Who are you asking about?

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Further to your question, 2005burty, any links to go out and check ?

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Thanks to Tomas Prusa, over on "Bf 109 from Anton to Toni" Group, FB, we have here a great addition of five new late war Bf 109's:

1. Danzig-Langfuhr, with in the background a 1./JG 51 Bf 109 G-14
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/dateposted/

2. Four new shots from the Johannistal - Adlerhof airfield in the eastern Berlin suburbs, with its bonanza of elderly Erla (W.Nr. 410 285 and 412 865), WNF ( W.Nr. 20 548) and MWG Györ (W.Nr. 760 070) built Bf 109 G-6's just after refurbishing...and already abandoned.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57632088383382

3. A new photo fo the wrecked WNF built Bf 109 G-10 from the II./JG 52 Gruppenkommandeur, possibly found at Raudnitz in April 1945.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...in/dateposted/

Thanks for all those, Tomas
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

New this pictures are not --- already in the 70ties or 80ties were published in the GDR-magazine NBI ("Neue Berliner Illustrierte").

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Danke Jörg !

Any other pictures from this machines, to your knowledge ?

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

No ... it were the same pictures.

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Thanks again, Jörg, for your insight.

Sincerely
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

New 109K-4 photo?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Factory-fres...75.c100623.m-1

Erla G-10

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Messershmitt...75.c100623.m-1

109K-4

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Messerschmit...75.c100623.m-1

Cheers,

D.B.

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hi there folks,

A new pic has emerged from this odd Bf 109 G-6/AS surrounded by RCAF personal :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/dateposted/

IT is still surmised this plane might have been found at Pau, France and might have been a 6./JG 11 machine. Any other information, confirmation/correction available ?

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

A highly interesting Bf 109 K-4 - possibly W.Nr. 330 442 - with Stab markings from an unknown unit can be seen here.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/dateposted/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/

With thanks to Kees Mol for the pointer and to cenkul.sk who posted those two shots on modelforum.cz.

Notice also the small white triangle atop of the rudder ; this marking is without known significance so far. Here a file with all known exemples, seen on Bf 109 G-6's and G-14's so far:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57633472817042

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

small white triangle atop? Why can I see the building behind the rudder? For me it is broken?!

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Thanks for these great photos!

W.Nr. is 335442, and as Falcon said, rudder is indeed broken, not painted with a triangle

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

That's what I read too. 335 442. But my WNr. sources end's earlier. Prien -335 300; Schmoll - 335 220. Did we got documented numbers above 300 for 335 xxx?

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hi there Jasate and Falcon,

W.Nr. : if confirmed, 335 442 would join up with 335 800, found in Munich as the highest W.Nr. recorded for Mtt : http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...otolist-8Tcxj8

As for the rudder white triangle, take a moment to check out the photo: the rear of the rudder is broken alright, but the white wedge on the top of the rudder is clearly there, and not due to the dent.

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

It does indeed appear to be there.

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

hi there Gang,

Possibly an new photo from NAGr. 1 Bf 109 G-8 whilst being stationed at Niedermendingen, late December 1944:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flieger-...8AAOSw6qda4LQg

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Dear All,

This note to let you know I have decided to put until further notice on private mode my Flickr page on late war Bf 109's. This move is driven by the necessity of stopping unscrupulous eBay sellers of lifting both photos and captions from my pages and then proposing them for sale at typically 3,99 Euros apiece.

Based on knowledge sharing and collaborative work around a visual archive for all accessible late war 109 images, I always put utmost care of quoting the source, giving the direct link to the orignal site, naming the people behind the images and, in many cases, asking for permission to upload them on my pages.

In order to continue in that spirit and stop any further looting for commercial purposes, I will have to devise a watermark system agreed upon by the orignal copyright owners and implement it progressively for all accessible images. This will be a lengthy process, but ultimately, I'm confident that the public part of this archive will be again online in due time.

Thanks for bearing out in the mean time, and looking forward to have you all back onboard.

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Marc:

To begin with, allow me to say I appreciate your efforts and the work involved in creating your site. When time allows, I have spent time browsing through it and have enjoyed reading and viewing your photos.

I also agree with the action you have taken. The lifting of photos, only to be sold on E-bay w/o proper accreditation is infuriating. As you aware, I too have complained about the 3.99 photo seller and suffered the consequences of those actions. Maybe time to create an unscrupulous seller list?

It is getting to the point now that LiF has started to watermark their photos as printed in their books. Sad that it has come to that.

Mark Proulx

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hi Kark,

Thanks for your much appreciated praise and support. Obviously this 3.99 Euros gentleman pushed his luck way too hard... As for the unscrupulous seller list, this is the legal responsibility of eBay.

Yes, watermark is the only solution; there will be no more accessible photos on my Flickr pages without watermark, except the eBay ones as they are already heavily marked...

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Marc:

I am not familiar with the mechanics of Flickr, but is it possible to dis-able the "right-click" feature?

Also, if I may I suggest, place your watermarks strategically, toned or faded down. To place the watermarks in a corner of the image allows for easy cropping and elimination of the watermark, defeating the whole point of the exercise.

Good luck with your task ahead. I am sure that it will take some time...

Mark Proulx

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Sorry...one other point....

As to unscrupulous sellers copying photos from the 'net for sale; E-bay's responsibility? Yes! Are they going to do anything about it? No!

IMHO...

I sincerely believe that they don't care, especially given the numbers of e-bay sellers and the small area of interest of "our" historical subject matter. In addition, if that seller is banned due to continued negative feedback, they are just going to continue under a new identity. This had already shown to be the case.

Mark

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Mark,

Yes you can; this will not save you from screenshots though ;) And agreed, I will place the watermark on the airframe. As for time, it sure will; it took me already 8 years to build-up this visual reference too...

As for eBay responsibility, I'm just back from the 21st UNESCO session of the Intergovernmental Committee for Promoting the Return of Cultural Property to its Countries of Origin or its Restitution in case of Illicit Appropriation (ICPRCP), held in Paris; we heard from the eBay representative that they were cooperating with law enforcement bodies in this matter. We will certainly have the possibility to check this in the next few years. But I concur: for our "niche", it'll possibly remain as you say...and depend on our reaction.

Cheers
Marc



Cheers
Marc