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23rd Fighter Group losses
Hello,
Here is what I think is the full MACR list for the 23rd Fighter Group in WW2. Additional losses are most welcome as are corrections. 23rd Fighter Group Losses & MACR's 1943 43/04/08 - P40K - 42-46248 - 74FS - 1Lt. Mitchell, D, M. - O-426410 - Fatal Accident. 43/07/26 - P40K - 42-9914 - 74FS - 2Lt. LEE, H, L. Chinese Air Force - 461. 43/08/05 - P38G - 42-12336(?) - 449FS - 2Lt. BARRETT, R. J - O-732126 - 306. 43/08/20 - P40K - 42-9752 - 74FS - 2Lt. MAO, Y.K. Chinese Air Force- 460 43/08/27 - P40 - ??-????? - 76FS - Capt. KRIPPNER, H, I - O-. - 16263. 43/10/01 - P40K - 42-45906 - 75FS - 2Lt. CHEN, P.C. Chinese Air Force - 758. 43/10/01 - P40K - 42-46250 - 75FS - 1Lt. WOOD, H, I. - O-789035 - 759. 43/12/01 - P51A - 43-6277 - 76FS - 1Lt. COLBERT, R, T. - O-736998 - 12260. 43/12/04 - P40N - 42-104436 - 74FS - Capt. BELL, P, N. - O-431239 - 11970. 43/12/29 - P40 - 43-6289 - 76FS - 1Lt. BOYLAN, B, G - O- 661272 - 16389 1944 44/01/18 - P40K - 42-106283 - 74FS - 1Lt. SMITH, L, W - O-664267 - 4798.(?). 44/01/18 - P40K - 42-106270 - 74FS - Capt. VIDOVICH, H. S - O-661405 - 4797. 44/03/18 - P40N - 42-105155 - 75FS - 1Lt. BLANCO, J, A - O-736975 - 4114. 44/05/06 - P51B - 43-12394 - 76FS - 1Lt. BENEDA, G, E - O-736949 - 11971. 44/05/09 - P40N-15 - ??-?????? - 74FS - 1Lt. SMITH, L, W - O-664267 - 4798 (?). 44/05/26 - P40N - 42-105002 - 75FS - 1Lt. SMEDLEY, W, R - O-801910 - 5809. 44/06/15 - P40N - 42-105000 - 74S - Maj. MELLOAN, B, E - O-398666 - 6086. 44/06/26 - P40N - 42-105276 - 74FS - 1Lt. ARMSTRONG, F, H - O-801319 - 11969. 44/06/26 - P40N - 42-104936 - 74FS - 2Lt. OVEREND, D, K - O-694260 - 16261. 44/06/28 - P40N - 43-23811- 118TRS - 2Lt. SWAIM, T, S - O-689912 - 6451. 44/06/29 - P40N - 42-104941 - 75FS - 1Lt. VURGAROPULOS, J, C - O-799283 - 16397. 44/07/05 - P40N - 43-24158 - 118TRS - 2Lt. DENTON, G, W - O-689749 - 6449. 44/07/06 - P40N - 42-105009 - 74FS - 2Lt. GARRETT, C, D - O-818564 - 6471. 44/07/23 - P40N - 42-104923 - 74FS - 1Lt. MULLINEAUX, R, (NMI) - O801360 - 6872. 44/07/26 - P40N - 43-24181 - 74FS - 1Lt. BATES, O, R - O-797843 - 7214. 44/07/29 - P40N - 43-24184 - 75FS - 1Lt. ELKER, O, H - O-802273 - 7116. 44/08/06 - P40N - 43-23806 - 118TRS - Capt. GEE, R, E - O-439703 - 7263. 44/08/06 - P40N - 43-24149 - 118TRS - 1Lt. SWANSON, E, W - O-689913 - 7264. 44/08/06 - P40N - 43-24164 - 118TRS - 1Lt. WATTS, O, S - O-532315 - 7265 44/08/06 - P40N - 42-105901 - 118TRS - 1Lt. O'BRIEN, R, C - O-798342 - 7266. 44/08/06 - P51B - 43-6878 - 76FS - 2Lt. HOLCOMB, L, M - O-820273 - 7267. 44/08/10 - P40N - 43-23400 - 75FS - Maj. QUIGLEY, D, L - O-432207 - 7349. 44/08/13 - P40N - 42-106324 - 74FS - 1Lt. BUTLER, V, A - O-799125 - 7351. 44/08/14 - P40N - 43-24155 - 118TRS - 1Lt. STUTZMAN, R, E - O-686870 - 7348. 44/08/16 - P40K - 42-9755 - 118TRS - 2Lt. SUTLIFF, H, S - O-821803 - 7590. 44/08/16 - P40N - 42-105273 - 74FS - 1Lt. BALDWIN, B, C - O-807217 - 7592. 44/08/17 - P40N - 42-104921 - 75FS - 1Lt. FOLMAR, J, F - O-674296 - 7594. 44/08/19 - P40N - 42-106264 - 75FS - 2Lt. SMITH, W, M - O-692217 - 7855. 44/08/26 - P40N - 43-23622 - 74FS - 2Lt. ANGEL Jr, T, B - O-683667 - 8019. 44/08/29 - P40N - 42-106318 - 74FS - 1Lt. BENNETT, G, F - O-797926 - 8017. 44/08/31 - P40K - 42-46261 - 118TRS - 2Lt. CLAIBORNE, E, S - O-821840 - 8021. 44/09/04 - P40 - 43-22800 - 118TRS - 2Lt. THOMAS, J, E - O-812174 - 8115. 44/09/05 - P40N - 43-23259 - 75FS - 2Lt. BEAVEN, G, C - O-668391 - 8720. 44/09/19 - P40N - 43-23661 -'74FS - 2Lt. FISCHHABER, G, F - O-817914 - 8725. 44/09/21 - P40N - 43-23343 - 75FS - 2Lt. BOSSERMAN, J, A - O-705490 - 9451. 44/09/21 - P40N - 43-22837 - 75FS - 1Lt. ROBERTS, R, A - O-701171 - 9727. 44/10/04 - P51B - 43-12395 - 76FS - 1Lt. LEISSES, H, (NMI) - O-754151 - 9608. 44/10/04 - P51B - 42-106966 - 76FS - 1Lt. SHULL, R, B - O-701185 - 9609. 44/10/05 - P51C - 42-103628 - 118TRS - 2Lt. GOCKE, J, E - O-701752 - 9299. 44/10/05 - P40N - 42-106206 - 76FS - 1Lt. SMITH, E, E - O-812162 - 9610. 44/10/06 - P40N - 43-22786 - 2Lt. UPCHURCH, R, H - O-708349 - 9726. 44/10/15 - P51B - 43-7089 - 76 FS - 2Lt. EISENMAN, J, F - O-705065 - 9611. 44/10/21 - P40N - 43-23464 - 76FS - 2Lt. BELL, E, E - O-705527 - 9690. 44/10/21 - P40N - 42-104610 - 76FS - 2Lt. CALKINS, H, C - O-745290 - 11984. 44/10/27 - P40N - 42-104650 - 76FS - 2Lt. MOORE, H, C - O-711850 - 9722. 44/10/28 - P51C - 43-24986 - 74FS - 2Lt. BOWMAN, E, R - O-686627 - 9724. 44/10/28 - P51C - 42-103825 - HQ - 2Lt. CARNER, R, W - O-707658 - 9725. 44/10/28 - P51B - 43-7116 - 76FS - Maj. FLEMING, R, E - O-420905 - 10058. 44/10/29 - P40N - 43-22773 - 75FS - F/O. SCHWARTZ, J, F - T-123600 - 10048. 44/10/30 - P40N - 43-23637 - 76FS - 2Lt. POLKARPO, F, F - O-692916 - 10067. 44/10/30 - P40N - 43-23616 - 1Lt. NEWSOME, A,J - O-820312 - 10072. 44/10/30 - P40N - 42-104618 - 76FS - 2Lt. TORANGO, R, P - O-702865 - 10073. 44/11/07 - P51B - 43-12140 - 76FS - 1Lt. ROBBINS, H, V - O-691590 - 10068. 44/11/07 - P51C - 43-24962 - 74FS - 1Lt. ANGEL, T, B - O-684667 - 10076. 44/11/07 - P40N - 43-22779 - 118TRS - 2Lt. WHITE, H, N - O-710801 - 10092. 44/11/07 - P51C - 42-103421 - 118TRS - 1Lt. MIEHE, H, E - O-797874 - 10093. 44/11/10 - P51B - 42-106531 - 75FS - Capt. BROWN, J - O-799120 - 11694. 44/11/11 - P51C - 43-24947 - 75FS - 2Lt. TAYLOR, J, M - O-817130 - 10078. 44/11/11 - P51C - 44-10805 - 75FS - 2Lt. RILEY, W, B - O-701170 - 10046. 44/11/11 - P51C - 43-25212 - 75FS - 2Lt. GADBERRY, A, J - O-706583 - 10060. 44/11/11/- P51C - 43-25229 - 75FS - 1Lt. MILLER, R, P - O-693226 - 10077. 44/11/12 - P51 - 44-10810 - 74FS - 1Lt. FIRESTONE, N, S - O-435955 - 10061. 44/11/20 - P51C - 42-103610 - 118TRS - Capt. BOWEN, S, R - O-789869 - 10089. 44/11/23 - P51C - 43-25176 - 76FS - 2Lt. HOUCK, J, P - O-756588 - 10062. 44/11/25 - P51C - 44-10814 - 76FS - 1Lt. RAYMOND, R, J - O-812142 - 10090. 44/11/25 - P51C - 43-25219 - 74FS - 1Lt. EVANS, J, F - O-694211 - 10097. 44/12/03 - P51C - 44-10794 - 74FS - 1Lt. WATSON, M, B - O-460014 - 10368. 44/12/08 - P51C - 44-10815 - 74FS - 1Lt. McGILL, F, J - O-802053 - 10624. 44/12/08 - P51C - 43-25197 - 75FS - Capt. DANCE, S, A - O-378953 - 10628. 44/12/18 - P51C - 44-10807 - 74 FS - 1Lt. COUSINS, W, D - O-802257 - 10736. 44/12/18 - P51B - 42-106507 - 74FS - 1Lt. HANOVER, R, B - O-821702 - 10737. 44/12/18 - P51C - 43-25220 - 74FS - 1Lt. WHEELER, J, W - O-687413 - 10738. 44/12/20 - P51C - 43-25186 - 118TRS - 1Lt. COVEY, (NMI) - O-798256 - 10739 44/12/21 - P51C - 43-25182 - 74FS - 1Lt. CHRISMAN, J, F - O-694121 - 10741. 44/12/22 - P51C - 43-24963 - 74FS - 2Lt. FITZGERALD, R, R -- O-754091 - 10740. 44/12/22 - P51C - 43-24950 - 118TRS - 1Lt. KELLER, B, S - O-682655 - 10955. 44/12/23 - P51C - 44-11117 - 118TRS - 2Lt. BOERNKE, R, E - O-714365 - 10966. 44/12/24 - P51C - 43-24984 - 118TRS - 2Lt. PARNELL, M, L - O-686010 - 10967. 44/12/24 - P51C - 43-25237 - 118TRS - 1Lt. KETHLEY, B, L - O-446451 - 16260. 44/12/25 - P51C - 44-11058 - 74FS - Capt. REIS, P, J - O-660201 - 10960. 44/12/26 - P51C - 43-24938 - 118TRS - 2Lt. CHANCELLOR, E, L - O-711946 - 10963. 44/12/27 - P51C - 44-10787 - 74FS - Capt. BROWN, R, E - O-421626 - 10964. 44/12/27 - P51C - 43-25246 - 74FS - 1Lt. SWIM, D, H - O-818455 - 10965. 1945 45/01/15 - P51C - 43-24972 - 118TRS - 2Lt. THEOBALD, G, C - O-697602 - 11633. 45/01/15 - P51D - 44-11103 - 118TRS - Maj. HOUCK, D, L - O-546117 - 11635. 45/01/15 - P51C - 44-11120 - 118TRS - 1Lt. PALMER, F, S - O-728020 - 11636. 45/01/15 - P51B - 43-6751 - 118TRS - 2Lt. MITCHELL, D, J - O-710150 - 11637. 45/01/16 - P51B - 43-7055 - 118TRS - 1Lt. EGAN, J, F - O-517845 - 11634. 45/01/20 - P51C - 43-25185 - 118TRS - 2Lt. GEYER, G, J - O-701750 - 11775. 45/01/20 - P51C - 43-25228 - 74FS - F/O. SEAGO, B, G - T-124815 - 11880. 45/01/20 - P51C - 44-10813 - 118TRS - 2Lt. TOLLETT, H, B - O-697239 - 11882. 45/01/25 - L-5 - 42-98442 - 118TRS - Capt. CARPENTER, J, W - O-671635 & 1Lt. BRAUDE, B, B - O-1003679(passenger) - 18889. 45/02/26 - P51K - 44-11426 - 76FS - 2Lt. EDWARDS, D, E - O-821677 - 12759. 45/02/27 - P51D - 44-11291 - 76FS - 2Lt. BREINGAN, C, A - O-801751 - 12785. 45/02/27 - P51K - 44-11446 - 76FS - 2Lt. BAIRD, R, T, W - O-809081 - 12786. 45/02/27 - P51K - 44-11448 - 76FS - Capt. MASSEY, R, L - O-432710 - 12787. 45/03/28 - P51C - 43-24977 - 74FS - 2Lt. CHMIELEWSKI, S,J -O-807169 - 13586. 45/03/28 - P51C - 44-11110 - 74FS - 2Lt. SIMS, A, H - O-826536 - 13587. 45/03/28 - P51C - 44-11055 - 74FS - Maj. CHAPMAN, P, G - O-389284 - 13591. 45/03/29 - P51C - 44-11064 - 74FS - 2Lt. McMASTER, R, W - O-824528 - 13585. 45/03/30 - P51D - 44-11268 - 75FS - 2Lt. RILEY, W, B - O-701170 - 13589. 45/04/03 - P51D - 44-11299 - 75FS - Maj. SLOCUMB, C, B - O-427775 - 13691. 45/04/03 - P51D -:44-11312 - 75FS - Capt. PARHAM, F, F - O-450540 - 13767. 45/04/03 - P51D - 44-11284 - 76FS - Capt. BUTLER, W, S - O-431383 - 13769. 45/06/03 - P51D - 44-11313 - 76FS - Lt Col. TEETER, L,V - O-406341 - 14568. 45/06/11 - P51K - 44-11790 - 76FS - Capt. LYEN, B, S - O-796167 - 14737. 45/06/19 - P51K - 44-11894 - 76FS - 1Lt. LAWMAN, E, H - O-812834 - 14660 45/06/20 - P51C - 43-25195 - 76FS - 1Lt. BAIRD, R,T,W - O-809081 - 14663. 45/06/20 - P51C - 43-25201 - 76FS - 1Lt. STEINHARDT, H - O-804061 - 14664. 45/06/21 - P51C - 43-25184 - 76FS - 1Lt. QUIMBY, W, H - O-813225 - 14671. 45/07/02 - P51D - 44-11276 - 76FS - Capt. GILMORE, B, H - O-421593 - 14702. 45/07/06 - P51K - 44-11862 - 76FS - 1Lt. TAPP, C, J - O-675729 - 14724. 45/07/07 - F6D - 44-14867 - 75FS - Capt. BERVEN, G, C - O-668391 - 8720. 45/09/27 - P51K - 44-12741 - 74FS - F/O. SIMMONS, G, G - T-64070 - 14962. 45/10/07 - P51K - 44-12728 - 74FS - 1Lt. CUNNINGHAM, W, M - O-829946 - 14956. Alex |
Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
Howard L Krippner, Jr O-426568 in 42-9866 according to my copy of the DPMO loss list.
Add Capt. John Frederick Hampshire, O-398789, DoW, aerial combat, May 2, 1943 in P-40K (serial not established, but possibly P-40K-1 42-45732 #161) (13 victory ace) Probably more, but I haven't gone through their records. Enjoy! Frank. |
Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
John A. Oparowski, MACR 14773. 74 FS MIA July 18, 1945 in 43-24960.
Kent |
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Lt. Gordon C. Berven, 75 FS July 7, 1945, MACR 14717. F-6D 44-14867 "Skylark", returned to duty. Carl Molesworth has him in 74 FS July 17 and KIA but MACR documents say 75 FS and he was later a Captain.
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Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
I do not think the list is complete, though it could be that some MACRs were not compiled. It is quite a while since I have researched 23rd FG, but I recall I could not locate information on anumber of 1943 losses.
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This one sort of sticks out. The MACR number for the Jan 25, 1945 loss of an L-5 cannot be correct. The highest MACR number is 16607. Found it on Fold3. The file folder (first image) has 18889 written on it, but the MACR form itself is stamped 11889.
Franek, The MACR system officially started on July 1, 1943. Occasionally you will find MACRs for events before then, but they were prepared later (usually a year or more). In addition, any deaths that occurred where the body was recovered (almost) immediately will not have a MACR, because there was no *Missing* Air Crew man. This would be covered in a Battle Casualty report, and I have never found a source for these, unless a copy was retained in the squadron or group records for the mission. Enjoy! Frank. |
Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
Hello all,
Thank you for the additional info and comments, most welcome. As for MACR 18889. Page one has "18889" but page two has "11889" But to access I had to type in 18889, https://catalog.archives.gov/search?...orNaIds=305256 The highest macr is as Frank says 16707, so ? Thanks to all, am looking forward to more additional info as we go forward Alex |
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Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
John W. Van Voorhis, 76 FS MACR 14901 September 5, 1945 in 44-14883 "Frontella"
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Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
Frank
It is quite a few years since I have researched the unit, but I seem to recall some cases qualifying for MACR but where no MACR could have been located. This for the period covered by MACR. I am well aware of desperate state of affairs in regard of the unit's records, though some gems appear periodically. They also have had a nice informal diary of the unit, or was it just only 75th? In general, however, it is a forgotten unit, despite a very interesting history. Ed I am not sure if the book goes down the detail discussed here. |
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Alas, this reminds me of my very long wish list... which just keeps getting longer. :)
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Franek,
I certainly know of cases of missing aircrew which are not covered by a MACR. During the invasion of Southern France, 5 or 6 Tuskegee fighter pilots of the 332nd FG were shot down, missing, killed or POW. There is only one MACR for these losses. I suspect the dreaded "lost in the mail" response. The MACRs were prepared by the missing aircrewman's squadron or group, and the MACR form and the witness reports were then (air) mailed to Washington, where they were assigned numbers and collected. If the aircraft with the MACRs crashed, or the mail bag was dropped into the sea at some point, then "lost in the mail." I have never seen a response from Washington back to the issuing unit that their MACRs had arrived in Washington. So the issuing unit had no way of knowing that they needed to prepare a new copy. Enjoy! Frank. |
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Frank
A weird coincidence - I have just looked at MACR 11970 - last pages contain correspondence concerning MACRs missing in transit! I do not know if the reason is in the missing reports or if for some reason they were not filed. It is my recollection, that some of the 1943 period were missing. Certainly the distance and the Hump prevented regular deliveries of paperwork. One of the most interesting papers that I have seen was a Flight Schedule for 75th, but I do not know if it was from the archives or kept by a pilot. Well, the hope is, that the paperwork was not properly destroyed, and still resides in some Chinese archive. |
Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
Some nitpicking…
I think: 44/05/26 - P40N - 42-105002 - 75FS - 1Lt. SMEDLEY, W, R - O-810910 - 5809. should be: 44/05/26 - P40N - 42-105002 - 75FS - 1Lt. SMEDLEY, W, R - O-801910 - 5809. Best wishes/Håkan |
Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
Thank you, my typo error, it is as you say O-801910. Now corrected.
Alex |
Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
Hello Alex, just wondering if you want to have the full loss list (or as much as possible) for 23rd FG, or if you are interested only in MACR.
The book "Sharks over China" had 6 pages (281-286) listing men of 23rd FG who died during WWII. KIA, KIFA, killed by Japanese bombs. Just for the beginning of 1943, before the loss you list on 8 April (that is also in the book) 43/01/12 P-40 (no serial) 16th FS 1st Lt L F "Chip" Myers KIFA en route to Yunnanyi 43/01/16 P-40 (no serial) 16th FS 2nd Lt George V Pyles KIA Yunnanyi 43/02/11 P-40K-1 (no serial) 75th FS Lt William T Cross KIA strafing troops Nan Sang bridge 43/03/19 P-40 (no serial) 74th FS Capt Raymond W Lucia KIA ground fire near Mangshih 43/03/29 P-40 (no serial) 74th FS 1st Lt Robert E Atkinson KIA strafing Chefang 43/04/01 P-40K-1 41-5567 75th FS Capt Burrall Barnum KIA dogfight Lingling Other losses where pilot survived are given in the narrative. Before 1943, 16 pilots died in 1942 (8 KIA, 8 KIFA). You can also check the list of accidents in https://www.aviationarchaeology.com/src/AFrptsMO.htm. For the same period as above, I found three total losses, including the one on 8 April 1943: 430313 P-40K 42-9926 76FS 23FG 10 LAC 4 Vaughn, Clyde C CHI Kunming 430324 P-40K 42-9921 75FS 23FG 14 BOF 5 Grosvenor, William (NMI) Jr CHI Kunming 430408 P-40K 42-46248 74FS 23FG 10 KCRF 5 Mitchell, David M IND New Delhi |
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