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ouidjat 31st January 2011 10:50

31/01 - Bf109s on eBay & other site. Me 262 & Fw 190D.
 
Hello People,

Not only on eBay... Kemon01 did find some pictures I wasn't able to get, SO here they are!

Concerning the Fw 109D; I think it's a new one (Can be wrong)
Concerning the Me 262s; I think they are new pictures (Can be wrong too) of known planes in Salzburg.
But the more important here is we have an aerial view of Salsburg(no it's not! and with a "Z"!!!) Innsbruck-Hötting airfield with the famous road and ALL the planes and there position... (You know we discussed that on LEMB times ago)!!... Let's play & count them!

1. http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Flugzeug-Me-109-Camo-Name-JG11-Jever-43-/270699668755?pt=Militaria&hash=item3f06f52513
2. http://cgi.ebay.de/org-Foto-2WK-Me-Bf-109-Tarnanstrich-/250765879360?pt=Militaria&hash=item3a62cfa840
3. http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Flugzeug-Me-BF-109-G-6-JG-1-Herbst-1943-Leeuwarden-/200570969035?pt=Militaria&hash=item2eb2f61bcb
4. http://cgi.ebay.de/Flugzeug-Me-BF-109-G-6-9-JG1-Erla-Haube-Wappen-/200570971055?pt=Militaria&hash=item2eb2f623af
5. http://cgi.ebay.de/2-WK-Foto-Flugzeug-Me-BF-109-G-6-JG-1-1943-Leeuwarden-/200570966720?pt=Militaria&hash=item2eb2f612c0
6. http://cgi.ebay.de/2-WK-Foto-Flugzeug-Me-Bf-109-F-JG-3-Leeuwarden-Kennung-/200570959294?pt=Militaria&hash=item2eb2f5f5be
7. http://cgi.ebay.de/2-WK-Foto-Flugzeug-Me-Bf-109-F-JG-3-Leeuwarden-Wart-/200570958424?pt=Militaria&hash=item2eb2f5f258
8. http://cgi.ebay.de/2-WK-Flugzeug-Me-BF-109-G-6-9-JG1-1943-Leeuwarden-TOP-/200570970234?pt=Militaria&hash=item2eb2f6207a
9. http://cgi.ebay.com/Messerschmitt-BF-109-GERMAN-WWII-Fighter-Aircraft-RPPC-/160538383634?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2560d5 5512
10. http://cgi.ebay.de/Flugzeug-Jager-ME-109-Doppelsitzer-WK-II-/180619385595?pt=Militaria&hash=item2a0dc11afb
11.http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01/5403741124/sizes/o/in/photostream/
12.http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01/5403741020/sizes/o/in/photostream/
13.http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01/5403140505/sizes/o/in/photostream/

Me 262:
14. http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-Foto-Luftwaffe-Me-262-Flieger-Kennung-2-WK-/280622705900?pt=Militaria&hash=item41566aacec
15.http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01/5403807082/sizes/l/in/photostream/
16.http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01/5403807034/sizes/o/in/photostream/
17.http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01/5403206553/sizes/o/in/photostream/
18.http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01/5403206531/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Hans Philipp I guess:
19. http://cgi.ebay.de/Jagdflieger-Orden-RK-Me-109-Negativ-1940-/110642566311?pt=Militaria&hash=item19c2cf94a7

Fw 190D:
20. http://cgi.ebay.com/396-WWII-51st-Med-Photo-Negative-Captured-FW-190D-/180619504977?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0dc2 ed51

Regards, Franck.

DeMePhi 31st January 2011 12:25

Re: 31/01 - Bf109s on eBay & other site. Me 262 & Fw 190D.
 
Pic Nr. 20 Is there a second gruppe bar visible between the wheels?

RolandF 31st January 2011 13:15

Re: 31/01 - Bf109s on eBay & other site. Me 262 & Fw 190D.
 
Hallo Franck,

talking about #18: This is not Salzburg, but Innsbruck-Hötting airfield. Or Innsbruck-West, if you like. Now International Airport Innsbruck. The Me 262s #15-17 are photographed at Hötting airfield, too. W.Nr. 111857 and "White 12" - both from JV 44.

Regards

Fran

Nick Beale 31st January 2011 13:21

Re: 31/01 - Bf109s on eBay & other site. Me 262 & Fw 190D.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeMePhi (Post 122009)
Pic Nr. 20 Is there a second gruppe bar visible between the wheels?

And is that a yellow panel beneath the engine?

Great photo of Hötting, probably taken from the mountainside opposite. I fool myself that I can see two Ju 87s on the southern perimeter looking as if their engine bearers have been blown up. Can't see the Ju 188 which was there, so I guess it's off screen the right.

This Bf 109 is familiar: W.Nr. 160756, yellow 4 (KT+LL) of I./JG 4, flown by a defector to the Allies in Italy in July 1944. Now in the NASM collection but in different colours.

ouidjat 31st January 2011 13:33

Re: 31/01 - Bf109s on eBay & other site. Me 262 & Fw 190D.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RolandF (Post 122012)
Hallo Franck,

talking about #18: This is not Salzburg, but Innsbruck-Hötting airfield. Or Innsbruck-West, if you like. Now International Airport Innsbruck. The Me 262s #15-17 are photographed at Hötting airfield, too. W.Nr. 111857 and "White 12" - both from JV 44.

Regards

Fran

Hi Fran,

Of course Innsbruck-Hötting, but this happened such long time ago that I lost my GPS!
Shame on me.
Thanks to correct me!!

This is the prove that puting links without checking is not enough

Regards, Franck.

ouidjat 31st January 2011 13:43

Re: 31/01 - Bf109s on eBay & other site. Me 262 & Fw 190D.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 122013)
And is that a yellow panel beneath the engine?

Great photo of Hötting, probably taken from the mountainside opposite. I fool myself that I can see two Ju 87s on the southern perimeter looking as if their engine bearers have been blown up. Can't see the Ju 188 which was there, so I guess it's off screen the right.

This Bf 109 is familiar: W.Nr. 160756, yellow 4 (KT+LL) of I./JG 4, flown by a defector to the Allies in Italy in July 1944. Now in the NASM collection but in different colours.

Hello Nick,

I see two Ju 87s two without doubts (does it mean there was three of them since one was taken just in front of a barn door?). The Ju 188 seems to be at bottom right, on corner.

For the Bf 109... nothing to add: it's the one.

Regards, Franck.

ouidjat 31st January 2011 13:53

Re: 31/01 - Bf109s on eBay & other site. Me 262 & Fw 190D.
 
Hi,

#20: Just a guess since I don't see a II.Gr. stroke but I suppose a Chevron.
Hence my guess WNr.211934, Stab II./JG 6 captured in Fürth on 8 may 1945... Indeed She had a II.Gr. stroke !!! Kennung: "Winkel Kreis".

As for the yellow panel: Unpainted??

Franck.

DaveM2 1st February 2011 04:37

Re: 31/01 - Bf109s on eBay & other site. Me 262 & Fw 190D.
 
Photo 9 - The Emil currently on display at IWM Duxford?

Dave

ouidjat 1st February 2011 09:03

Re: 31/01 - Bf109s on eBay & other site. Me 262 & Fw 190D.
 
Horst Perez plane, WNr.1190. It is on display at Duxford?? if it is, that's the one.

DaveM2 1st February 2011 10:58

Re: 31/01 - Bf109s on eBay & other site. Me 262 & Fw 190D.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 122066)
Horst Perez plane, WNr.1190. It is on display at Duxford?? if it is, that's the one.

Yes that is it. Looks like that photo was taken in Canada when it was on the war bond tour.


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