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Snautzer 26th March 2018 21:31

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  1. Do217 wrknr 4463 KGzbv 105 ? ketley rolfe pg 56 Black night cammo https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Nachtja...gAAOSwxwRatsee
  2. Do217 TE+MA KGzbv 105 ? ketley rolfe pg 56 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...AAAOSwB1JatsDE
  3. Album-Torpedo-Lehrgang-Italien-1942 KG26 428-Fotos-Monte-Christo-Sardinien https://www.ebay.de/itm/Album-Torped...4AAOSwfXFauUO6

edwest2 26th March 2018 23:24

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...75.c100623.m-1

Tom Willis 26th March 2018 23:24

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Post 281
The emblem on the Do217K-1 looks very much like that of FFS(B)5. The white No17 on the fin is like those applied as a School's a/c number

edwest2 27th March 2018 03:56

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/org-Foto-Ukr...0AAOSwlStauUr5

https://www.ebay.de/itm/org-Foto-Ukr...oAAOSw8fZauUoJ

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Q665-Foto-We...0AAOSwD4lauO3S

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...YAAOSwIMRauTW7

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...YAAOSweRlauTcj


Photo album

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Fotoalb...sAAOSwpdpVdJU7

Snautzer 27th March 2018 11:30

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  1. Aufklärungsgrp.126-Seeaufklärung-Italien,Kreta-Sougia Album notice confim kill of beaufighter 1-6-44 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Hammer-Fotoa...gAAOSwIxxauU1D

Snautzer 28th March 2018 12:17

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  1. Morane Saulnier MS-317 BD+IS https://www.ebay.de/itm/Flugzeug-Flu....c100005.m1851
  2. Morane Saulnier MS-317 BD+IS https://www.ebay.de/itm/Flugzeug-Flu....c100005.m1851
  3. Morane Saulnier MS-317 BD+IS https://www.ebay.de/itm/Flugzeug-Flu....c100005.m1851

Stig Jarlevik 28th March 2018 21:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 249904)

As far as I know BD+IS is a MS 230
Cheers
Stig

Snautzer 29th March 2018 12:14

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Think you are right Stig

  1. Morane Saulnier MS 230 RC+QO https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...IAAOSw1m9au-Qy

Snautzer 29th March 2018 22:12

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  1. Avia B-534 Nr-516 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Beute-F...8AAOSwfXFasoih

edwest2 30th March 2018 01:30

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...75.c100623.m-1

edNorth 30th March 2018 02:07

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I see that Well ... ington KX-. Probably bla bla 1000+ individual shots sold on eBay over period far longer than its existance.

edNorth 30th March 2018 02:19

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Russlan...kAAOSw5FNZjrRU

This seller requires history lesson and a/c recognition lession. I can offer both, but I wont. Likely waste of time.

edwest2 30th March 2018 03:45

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/Or-Foto-Flug...YAAOSwtXBatgbx


https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...MAAOSwLhBau4d-


https://www.ebay.de/itm/org-Foto-Ukr...gAAOSwacVavTUp


https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...4AAOSwdoNau3c3


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-2-WK-Fl...EAAOSwWyRavQyp


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...kAAOSwDiBZNDG4


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...kAAOSwiIxaSOHP


https://www.ebay.de/itm/org-Foto-Weh...75.c100623.m-1




Photo album

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Fotoalbum-2-....c100009.m1982

Snautzer 30th March 2018 12:17

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  1. Kg51 Fahne https://www.ebay.de/itm/C137-Foto-We...gAAOSwEHhaunA6
  2. Kg77 wellen cammo https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-KG-77-F...YAAOSwTPRauRBw

Stig Jarlevik 30th March 2018 16:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edNorth (Post 249996)
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Russlan...kAAOSw5FNZjrRU

This seller requires history lesson and a/c recognition lession. I can offer both, but I wont. Likely wast of time.

Wat Ed?
Are you questioning this maestro of aircraft ID? Everyone can see this is the initial test prototype for the DC-10. The reciprocal engines are simply there to confuse you....
Incidentally even my wife got it right....without hesitation....

Must say this is likely the most funny ID this Easter....even though many E-bay sellers try their very best....

Cheers
Stig

edNorth 30th March 2018 17:31

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Thanks Stig, you are in luck with good wife.
Happy Eester!

Stig Jarlevik 30th March 2018 17:44

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Likewise Ed

Still silently laughing about the DC-10....:D

Cheers
Stig

edNorth 30th March 2018 17:48

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Maybe the McDonnel part ;-)

edwest2 30th March 2018 17:56

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KG 77 wellen camo, part 2


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-KG-77-F...75.c100623.m-1

Snautzer 30th March 2018 18:17

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Ed see #294. Youre dc10, could it be a li2?

edNorth 30th March 2018 19:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 250039)
Ed see #294. Youre dc10, could it be a li2?

Not mine. Absolutely nothing to do with this.
Its. Small DC-10 of course.

Snautzer 30th March 2018 20:44

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Lol! First time i catch on a funny remark . Well done! Btw i ment the other Ed.

edwest2 30th March 2018 21:55

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An Li 2 is most likely. It has a vague resemblance to a Douglas DC-3.






Ed

Snautzer 30th March 2018 22:25

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  1. Me110 whats with that air (?) intake left engine? https://www.ebay.de/itm/C453-Foto-We...IAAOSwCHZau7XR

edwest2 31st March 2018 00:07

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/C450-Foto-We...75.c100623.m-1


https://www.ebay.de/itm/C449-Foto-We...75.c100623.m-1


https://www.ebay.de/itm/C468-Foto-We...QAAOSwUWBau7Xt


https://www.ebay.de/itm/C459-Foto-We...YAAOSwwB1au7Xc


https://www.ebay.de/itm/C452-Foto-We...kAAOSw8LBau7XP


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...75.c100623.m-1


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...wAAOSwPI1aviDx


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...MAAOSwPNNaviCx



Off topic

https://www.ebay.de/itm/C466-Foto-We...oAAOSwpzVau7Xq

Snautzer 31st March 2018 22:00

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  1. Ju87 Pilot diner https://www.ebay.de/itm/ECHTFOTO-WEH...AAAOSwbc5av6bt
  2. Bf109 JG27 Libia https://www.ebay.de/itm/2-WK-Foto-Fl...QAAOSwhHlasieR

edwest2 31st March 2018 22:54

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/J14-Frankrei...wAAOSwXkJavOdo

https://www.ebay.de/itm/J16-Frankrei...gAAOSwoX5avOgB


Photo album

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Fotoalbum-Na...UAAOSwWxxas7a9


Flugbuch

https://www.ebay.de/itm/ARR-RUMAENIS...IAAOSw13Zaujqj

Copy

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Flugbuch-Her...0AAOSwvvBat9j-


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Flugbuch-Ant...IAAOSwzrBatUbe


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Flugbuch-Her...MAAOSw-ddassu6


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Flugbuch-Gun...gAAOSwnklatqZ~


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Flugbuch-Han...EAAOSwhINau979


Off topic
Photo album

https://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-Fotoalbu...MAAOSwuWJaulUN

Snautzer 1st April 2018 12:39

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  1. C-445-LKS-3-Werder-in-Halberstadt-im-Fruhjahr-1944 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...wAAOSwPh5ZLbgI
  2. Bu-181-LKS-3-Werder-in-Halberstadt-im-Fruhjahr-1944 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...MAAOSwVbxZh1xm
  3. Bu-181-LKS-3-Werder-in-Halberstadt-im-Fruhjahr-1944 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...UAAOSwYvFZLbf7
  4. Bu-181-LKS-3-Werder-in-Halberstadt-im-Fruhjahr-1944 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Bu-181-LKS-3-Werder-in-Halberstadt-im-Fruhjahr-1944/382425831852?hash=item590a5b19ac:g:CkIAAOSw~y9ZLbf
  5. Bu-181-LKS-3-Werder-in-Halberstadt-im-Fruhjahr-1944 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...EAAOSw0GZZh1xu
  6. Bu-181-LKS-3-Werder-in-Halberstadt-im-Fruhjahr-1944 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...YAAOSwZs1Zh1xq
  7. Ar-96 CD+OM LKS-3-Werder-in-Halberstadt-Fruhjahr-1944 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...gAAOSwn-tZLbfz
  8. Ar-96 CD+OM LKS-3-Werder-in-Halberstadt-Fruhjahr-1944 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...cAAOSwEupZh1xV
  9. Ar-96 CD+OM LKS-3-Werder-in-Halberstadt-Fruhjahr-1944 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...EAAOSwEFZZh1xa
  10. Flight control airstrip LKS-3-Werder-in-Halberstadt-Fruhjahr-1944 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...8AAOSww5hZLbgb
  11. Flight control airstrip LKS-3-Werder-in-Halberstadt-Fruhjahr-1944 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...4AAOSw0axZh1yJ
  12. Bf109 9./JG-51 Ofw-Edmund-Wagner-RK-Nov-1941 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf....c100005.m1851
  13. Bf109F-2 der III./JG 51 beim abbremsen im Herbst 1941 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...UAAOSwdGFYztzi
  14. A/B 42 Langensalza im Juni 1943 Flugschüler mit Startfahne https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...MAAOSwmNlZalmV
  15. A/B 42 Langensalza im Juni 1943 Flugschüler legt Fallschirm an https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...AAAOSw95FZalmQ
  16. A/B 42 Ar 96 der A/B 42 Langensalza im Sommer 1943 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...8AAOSwcx5ZaQiS
  17. A/B 42 Ar 96 der A/B 42 Langensalza im Sommer 1943 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...YAAOSwvc1ZaQiW
  18. A/B 42 Ar 96 der A/B 42 Langensalza im Sommer 1943 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...YAAOSwUFtZaQiI
  19. A/B 42 Ar 96 der A/B 42 Langensalza im Sommer 1943 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...kAAOSwcx5ZaQh8
  20. A/B 42 Ar 96 der A/B 42 Langensalza im Sommer 1943 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...IAAOSwYS9ZaQiN

PMoz99 1st April 2018 14:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 250057)
  1. Me110 whats with that air (?) intake left engine? https://www.ebay.de/itm/C453-Foto-We...IAAOSwCHZau7XR

That would be a tropical filter. See attached
Peter

Snautzer 1st April 2018 14:52

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Thanks but i mean on top of the engine, left

edwest2 2nd April 2018 02:22

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/2x-Orig-Flug...gAAOSwuGZawIhn

https://www.ebay.de/itm/WK2-Foto-Flu...IAAOSwrLRauSyw

Snautzer 2nd April 2018 12:54

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  1. radar-wurzburg-FuMG-62 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Groses-HORCH...cAAOSwlJlawfRS
  2. Fi156 5U+P22 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...gAAOSwtfhYrug7
  3. Me321 WI+SE 1941 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Rares-Foto-L...oAAOSwRChawUWQ
  4. Ju52 mobile-Funkmastanlage-im-Feld-Sommer 1941 https://www.ebay.de/itm/3-Fotos-Luft...oAAOSwIxxawTuN

Snautzer 3rd April 2018 12:03

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  1. Generator-Notstromaggregat-Wehrmacht-Luftwaffe https://www.ebay.de/itm/Generator-No...QAAOSwR8ZawxPf
  2. Aerial Henschel-Werke-Rothenditmold-1945 https://www.ebay.de/itm/WWII-US-AAF-...IAAOSwlL1awldR
  3. Tupolev SB-2 Condor Spain https://www.ebay.de/itm/Legion-Condo...UAAOSw0aNawxPq
  4. Ju77 St.G 77 Ukraine-Polen-Holland-Rumanien https://www.ebay.de/itm/550-Fotos-Lu...IAAOSw8BRawocc
  5. Ju88 Wellen camo PN+N? https://www.ebay.de/itm/Fotos-German...AAAOSwfXJawoKc

chuckschmitz 3rd April 2018 19:37

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In #313

Looks like PN+M for that Ju 88.

Chuck

peter.werry 4th April 2018 07:56

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In #284 item 2, the Ju52 with dot-dash tail marking is probably from 3/KGrzbV50. KGrzbV50 stab and staffeln used various combinations of a dot with varying positions of dash to signify the staffel. 1/staffel was at 9 o'clock, 2/ at 12o'c, 3/ at 3o'c, 4/ at 6o'c with stab using no dash. KGrzbV900 used a similar system but was of a larger size and usually on the rudder. This information was provided by Gerhard Stemmer on LEMB.
Regards
Peter

Snautzer 4th April 2018 10:53

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  1. Italian wrecks https://www.ebay.com/itm/1944-WWII-U...MAAOSwrLRaw8oK
  2. Wooden flak tower airfield protection https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Peine-H...oAAOSw3K1aw~oA
  3. Wooden flak tower airfield protection https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Peine-H....c100005.m1851
  4. Wooden flak tower airfield protection https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Peine-H....c100005.m1851
  5. Emblem Whale Geschwaderabzeichen-Fluggruppe-IV-43-Stab https://www.ebay.de/itm/Geschwaderab...cAAOSwlrFaxJ9C

edwest2 4th April 2018 19:04

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Thank you, Snautzer, for the whale emblem.




Ed

Larry deZeng 4th April 2018 20:42

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Thank you, Snautzer, for the Flak towers................they came in all shapes and sizes, I guess. The poor gunners were sitting targets for P-47 and P-51 strafers, not to mention the Spits and Typhoons.

L.

Snautzer 4th April 2018 22:13

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No, i dont think so Larry. German is as German do. For i.g. bunkers they had Standiger Ausbau formats. See pic
And as it was for sitting ducks: a lot of casualties came by attacking these airfields. It was quite the opposite

Larry deZeng 5th April 2018 01:38

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Hi Snautzer -

What you says about standardized construction plans is true and there almost certainly were some for the airfield Flak towers, although I've never found them. But the low-level gun camera film from strafers and diagrams and sketches worked up from these by Air Ministry A.I.2.(b) show a lot of variety, leading us to conclude that the Fliegerhorst Bauamt had a lot of latitude on the design of these depending on the availability of construction material and other factors.

But yes, the strafers did not like to attack the Flak towers! Very high risk. So tactics were developed on how to do it by minimizing the danger to the attackers, usually by several aircraft hitting the tower at the same time from different directions and altitudes. Many of the 8th and 9th AAF fighter groups had Flak suppression teams who specialized in this work. When one of these towers was hit at close range by all 8 x .50 cal. guns of a P-47 it was like putting it through a wood chipper - there was little left, including gunners.

The two books below address this subject in some detail:

Miller, Kent D. Fighter Units & Pilots of the 8th Air Force – September 1942 – May 1945; Volume 1: Day-to-Day Operations, Fighter Group Histories. Atglen (PA): Schiffer Publishing, 2001. ISBN: 0-7643-1241-3. Oversize Hb. 486p. A few photos. A statistical compilation.
Wolf, William. American Fighter-Bombers in World War II: USAF Jabos in the MTO and ETO. Atglen (PA): Schiffer Publishing, 2003. ISBN: 0-7643-1878-0. Oversize Hb. Laminated cover. 391p. Well illustrated. Color profiles. Appendices. Names index.

L.


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