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Why do you bark? Marc did use the word information, too; it wasn't a problem. What I want? I want you to publish a book instead of ...always barking against who doesn't know like you do-who-did-study-the-original-Erla-documents :) So please next time you want to bark, bark against Prien, JCM and Gogh who all are TOCH members, it will be fair and more courageous. |
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"...bark against Prien, JCM and Gogh..." ??????????? :confused::confused: --- I think, China has a bigger problem than Corona. :rolleyes: My time is too valuable to me to discuss such a nonsense. |
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Enough, everybody, no need for anyone to get into a fight.
Please return to calm discussion of Bf 109s. |
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Thx for your response. I'm not trying to beat a dead horse, but am still a bit confused with font size and space allocation.(I'm sure none of this was a priority during production. :)) Below is 413721 which takes up the entire space on the vertical stab..(Found at German Airfield in Metz, France. Dec. 20 ,1944) Both 413721 & 413861 have the same number of 1's in the W.Nr., wouldn't they both take up the same amount of space? Additionally there appears to be a different font used for the last 1 in each of the above W.Nr's, perhaps my answer. Regards, https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8f9fc5fb_h.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e1e60e03_h.jpg |
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A nice surprise from the East:
This photo does show IMHO an abandoned WNF built Bf 109 G-10/R2 from NAGr. 3 as evidenced by the VBKz "J2+32". https://vif2ne.org/nvi/forum/files/V...agerovo_hm.jpg Photographed with Russian aircrews in front of it in May 1945, could the location be Neubrandenburg, the last known airfield used by this unit ? With my thanks to Spektor, over on modelforum.cz, for the pointer. Cheers Marc |
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Hello Marc,
Post #995 - Judging by its lower cowling bumps and low CWSDH (Cold Weather Starting Device Hatch, visible by the man with the cane’s right arm) I think this is a Bf109G-14/AS. Also among its technical suite are a larger Fo 987 oil cooler, missing Erla Haube, and a tall wooden tail fin. Its small “J2” code suggests Nahaufklaerungsgruppe 3. Respectfully, Steve Sheflin |
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Thanks as always for your valued input: i indeed missed out the cold start hatch in the low position, a give-away for a DB 605/AS engine. I can but concur with your analysis: it is indeed a Bf 109 G-14/AS, leaving thus only two possible manufacturers, Mtt or Erla, as WNF never built Bf 109 G-14/AS. As for the unit, we fully concur. Cheers Marc |
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Then it's an Mtt. G-14/AS because Erla G-14/AS hadn't the chin bulges...
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So we have now both type and manufacture now pinpointed. W.Nr. and location would sum up our knowledge for this particular plane. Cheers Marc |
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Hello everyone,
Regarding the Werknummer of the Bf 109 G shown in Post #968 and further, I thought I had already added a comment, but apparently not. Having carefully read all posts involved, I am left with the question of why the mysterious third digit cannot be the upper portion of a “two?” WNrn. of 4608xx, there are no examples that I know of. The third digit is clearly not a “1,” “4,” or a “5,” so 461xxx, 464xxx and 465xxx are out. That leaves WNr. 462861, which falls nicely within a large number of Erla-Leipzig-built Bf 109 G-14’s. Supporting this idea is the condensed font style and position of application, both of which are very Erla-Leipzig-built-like. Respectfully, Steve Sheflin |
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