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Thomas H 5th November 2016 22:03

He111 WkNr. 5523
 
Hi,

I'm looking for information on a He111 that either returned with damage or crashed on return due to fighter damage.

Thank you in advance.

Regards, Thomas

Thomas H 11th November 2016 07:48

Re: He111 WkNr. 5523
 
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Does the WkNr. give information on when it was produced and to which unit it was initially delivered?

My guess is 1940 France. Either flying against missions in France or against England.

edNorth 11th November 2016 13:29

Re: He111 WkNr. 5523
 
No info in my list on 5523. Likely was He 111 H-1/H-2 made in April - May 1939.
Pre-war placement of Swasticka was on fin and rudder, after war started Swasticka was placed on fin (but older planes retained older position).

Snautzer 22nd February 2018 13:03

Re: He111 WkNr. 5523
 
Eggert: for adding to your files: He111P-2 Wrknr 5523 Bychow-Weisrussland
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showpo...5&postcount=99

Thomas H 22nd February 2018 13:38

Re: He111 WkNr. 5523
 
The link shows the grave of the crew from he111 WkNr. 5513?

Regards, Thomas

edNorth 22nd February 2018 14:32

Re: He111 WkNr. 5523
 
GQM 21.07.41 Lfd.73 (?)
show this loss as

17.7. He 111 H-2 5532 7./KG 53 (A1+HR) and same crew in full.
ie. Seller, Goltermann, Reismann, Hauser, Michel
Flakbeschuss Star-Byshof (Luftflutte 2, Einsatz-Östen)

No doupt here the P-2 stated here is this auchion is fiction,
possibly related to that Lexikon.de in text.

#100 % answer
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...=49493&page=10

Rottler 22nd February 2018 18:04

Re: He111 WkNr. 5523
 
There is an earlier entry:
Gen.Qu. loss report from 2 September 1940 lfd. Nr.17
30.8. I./KG 53 Feindflug Ort: Radlett, Ursache: Unbekannt. He 111 H-2 5532 A1+JL (L = 3. Staffel) 100%
Lt Rösler vermisst
Uffz Gall vermisst
Fw von Kühnheim vermisst
Uffz Sahm vermisst
Obgefr Fischer vermisst.

Correction from 28 September 1940: Fw von Kühnheim gefallen
Correction from 6 November 1940: Uffz Sahm gefallen
Correction from 13 December 1940: Ogefr Fischer in englischer Gefangenschaft gestorben.

Leo

edNorth 22nd February 2018 19:32

Re: He111 WkNr. 5523
 
Rottler, thanks.

My point was pointing at this was NOT P-2 version as Snautzer belived.
Crew in my post is same as these on eBay, caveat is that many duplicate

Adding:
Numbers are as found in GQM losses. 5532 is as as you say, both H-2,
eBay graves airplane can then be either 5513 or as I read number 5573.

Query was about 5523 (still unsolved)

Rottler 23rd February 2018 12:20

Re: He111 WkNr. 5523
 
The RLM had allocated Werknummern from 5000 on to the HWO (Heinkel-Flugzeugwerke Oranienburg) and ATG (Allgemeine Transportanlagen-Gesellschaft Leipzig):

HWO 5001-5094 He 111 J
HWO 5095 – 5149 He 111 H-1
HWO 5150 – 5199 He 111 J
ATG 5201 – 5240 He 111 E
ATG 5241 – 5260 He 111 H-1
ATG 5261 – 5399 He 111 H-2
HWO 5401 – 5440 He 111 H-1
HWO 5441 – 5600 He 111 H-2
ATG 5601 He 111 H-2
ATG 5602 – 5727 He 111 H-3

Source:
Dr. Volker Koos from ADL (Arbeitsgemeinschaft Deutsche Luftfahrthistorik) „Bau der Heinkel He 111 in Deutschland bis 1945“ (first published in Jet & Prop 2/2010).

Regards
Leo

Tomas Brezina 13th March 2018 16:49

Re: He111 WkNr. 5523
 
Hello, on the tomb cross the WNr. looks more like 5523 for me, not 5513 or 5573 (when I compare it with '111' above), so I think WNr. 5532 in GQM is a typo. It's just my opinion.

Regards, Tom


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