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markojeras 25th July 2018 22:29

Spitfire IX MH693
 
Dear Gentelmen,

please, is there any photo of this plane?
And how to track it's operational history?

With kind regards,

Marko Jeras
Zagreb, Croatia

Kutscha 25th July 2018 23:24

Re: Spitfire IX MH693
 
MH693
IX

CBAF
M63
39MU 14-9-43
47MU 21-9-43
Ionian 3-10-43
Casablanca 19-10-43
NAfrica 30-11-43
MedAAF 21-6-45
SOC 14-3-46

http://www.airhistory.org.uk/spitfire/

markojeras 26th July 2018 00:05

Re: Spitfire IX MH693
 
Great! Thank you!

udf_00 26th July 2018 08:41

Re: Spitfire IX MH693
 
from http://www.servicehistorique.sga.def..._ACCIDENTS.pdf
20 July 1944
Campo Dell'Oro (Ajaccio, Corsica)
MARCHAL René SLT.(P) GC I/3 (no. 327 Squadron)
Spitfire IXc MH693

Laurent Rizzotti 26th July 2018 15:48

Re: Spitfire IX MH693
 
The above website is very useful for Spitfires used in GB and NW Europe, but far less precise with aircraft sent overseas. Many dates are "administrative" ones, and the aircraft might have been lost far before the SOC registered date.

For the above incident, the French book "Pilotes français sur l'Italie" says that on 20 July 1944 the Spitfire of sous-lieutenant Marchal of GC I/3 Corse ended a landing at Ajaccio Campo del Oro on the nose. The pilot was unhurt. Nothing is said of the aircraft status after this incident. Details are probably available in the accident report in the French archives but I have no more access to these.

Laurent Rizzotti 26th July 2018 15:54

Re: Spitfire IX MH693
 
According to the book "Spitfire Dive-Bombers versus the V2", the Spitfire MH693 was used by 303 (Polish) Sqn in UK on 31 March 1945. I guess it is a typo (the books also list MA683 in the list of aircraft for the squadron, so possibly is it a typo/bad decoding for this).

Check the Google preview here:
https://books.google.fr/books?id=s9a...Spitfire+MH693

Col Bruggy 26th July 2018 17:24

Re: Spitfire IX MH693
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laurent Rizzotti (Post 255442)
According to the book "Spitfire Dive-Bombers versus the V2", the Spitfire MH693 was used by 303 (Polish) Sqn in UK on 31 March 1945. I guess it is a typo (the books also list MA683 in the list of aircraft for the squadron, so possibly is it a typo/bad decoding for this).

Check the Google preview here:
https://books.google.fr/books?id=s9a...Spitfire+MH693

Hello,

Might I suggest Spitfire F.IX MH692:RF-K, possibly a better alternative:

25-26 February 1945.

During the third armed recce that day (25th), Flying Officer (Julian) Krok recovered so violently from a dive in Spitfire F.IX MH692 RF-K that the rear fuselage skin was badly wrinkled and some rivets popped out of the wing skin.

See:
303 Squadron The Complete Illustrated History Volume Three 13 November 1943 - Present Day.
Matusiak,Wojtek
Walton-on-Thames:Red Kite,2015.
p.76

Col.

JohnE 27th July 2018 18:30

Re: Spitfire IX MH693
 
udf_00, is there a file with accidents prior to the one in the link?

John Engelsted

Quote:

Originally Posted by udf_00 (Post 255431)
from http://www.servicehistorique.sga.def..._ACCIDENTS.pdf
20 July 1944
Campo Dell'Oro (Ajaccio, Corsica)
MARCHAL René SLT.(P) GC I/3 (no. 327 Squadron)
Spitfire IXc MH693


Laurent Rizzotti 28th July 2018 09:40

Re: Spitfire IX MH693
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnE (Post 255474)
udf_00, is there a file with accidents prior to the one in the link?

John Engelsted

There was a PDF online listing accidents for the Arméé de l'Air (and including some RAF and Aéronavale losses) from 1st January 1934 to 22 June 1940. The link does not work, and Google can't find him, but I have it saved on my laptop if you're interested.

As far as I know, such a list does not exist between 22 June 1940 and 1 January 1943.

Regarding the 1943-45 list in the link above, remember that the Free French air units based in UK (and later in N France/Belgium) are not included, only the "not Free French" units of the Armée de l'Air coming from North Africa after Torch or formed in France after the liberation of the country. And combat losses are not included either.

JohnE 28th July 2018 10:06

Re: Spitfire IX MH693
 
Hi Laurent.

I am very interested in the list you have saved!

John


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