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Brian 1st October 2008 22:44

NZ pilot with USAAF
 
Hi guys

I noted on a website that a RNZAF pilot was seconded to a US P-51 unit and scored a victory over Europe during WWII. Do we know who this was?

Cheers
Brian

Leendert 2nd October 2008 12:52

Re: NZ pilot with USAAF
 
Brian,

Apparently Jack Cleland. I found this thread on a sister website: http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/arc...p?t-37561.html

Perhaps other board members can look up what claims he made...

Regards,

Leendert

Leendert 2nd October 2008 12:58

Re: NZ pilot with USAAF
 
Brian,

A story here: http://www.cebudanderson.com/jackcleland.htm

Somehow I miss the mentioning of a claim in a USAAF Mustang here, if there was any...

Regards,

Leendert

Brian 2nd October 2008 14:58

Re: NZ pilot with USAAF
 
Thanks Leendert - most interesting.

Cheers
Brian

JACK COOK 2nd October 2008 15:28

Re: NZ pilot with USAAF
 
F/L Warren Pelgar scored 4 confirmed kills while flying P-51s with the 354th FS 355th FG. Not sure if he was RAF, CAF or ZAF?
Cleland had no AAF claims just 2 in Spits.

Brian 2nd October 2008 18:04

Re: NZ pilot with USAAF
 
Thanks Jack

I was in touch with Warren Peglar many moons ago - small world!

Cheers
Brian

phasselgren 2nd October 2008 19:26

Re: NZ pilot with USAAF
 
I can only confirm Jack´s information. According to Those Other Eagles Cleland had no claims with AAF. Peglar was from the RCAF according the same book. Cleland is the only RNZAF pilot I know (sofar) to have been flying Mustangs with the USAAF in Europe but I am very interested to hear if anyone has more information in this subject.

Cheers
Peter

Phas3e 2nd October 2008 20:02

Re: NZ pilot with USAAF
 
Ospreys' 'Mustang aces of the eighth' has a photo of Cleland next to Isabel III as well as a photo of the plane but it sites him as an RAF liaison officer without naming him.

macfire 4th October 2008 06:40

Re: NZ pilot with USAAF
 
Clelland was wingman to Chuck Yeager.

WoW in 1998 had the FPM Mustang painted in his colours.
Isobel was a Special Guest of Honour at the event.

drgondog 5th October 2008 02:32

Re: NZ pilot with USAAF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JACK COOK (Post 74187)
F/L Warren Pelgar scored 4 confirmed kills while flying P-51s with the 354th FS 355th FG. Not sure if he was RAF, CAF or ZAF?
Cleland had no AAF claims just 2 in Spits.

RCAF for Peglar - who then returned to RCAF to fly Tempests. He got two pair, both on missions my father led. (Three 109s from JG 53 and one Fw 190A8 from JG 300. One pair August 3 and one pair Sept 11.

Plus he whacked one on the ground just as it touched the ground to become an 8th AF 'ace'. He flew 430 missions with RCAF and only had two air to air engagements - both with 355th.

He also flew on the last Shuttle Mission just before leaving the 355th. Helluva guy and still alive and kicking (hard) in Canada.


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