RAF Ferry Command deliveries - begin of July 1942
Hi all,
I am trying to establish aircraft delivery (serial + crew) from Canada to the UK which would fit the following timetable: arrived Gander (1 July) - left Gander for Reykjavik (3 July) - left Reykjavik for the UK (4 July) So far I was able to check the book "Ocean Bridge" (not helpful in this particular case) and RCAF Station Gander ORB which stated: 1 July Arrivals: 2 Venturas 2 B-25s 2 Liberators all en route tho the UK Departures: 3 B-25s, 1 Ventura and 3 Liberators for UK 2 Venturas for Iceland (1 returned) 3 July Departures: 3 B-25s and 3 B-17s for UK 1 Ventura for Iceland So my preliminary conclusion is that I am looking for a Ventura, probably of AE or AJ series (?). Is there any source which would help to establish the serial(s) at least? I was thinking also about TNA: AIR 28/653 PRESTWICK 1940 Dec. 1941 Feb. -1945 Dec but I am not sure if the serials of delivered aircraft are stated there. Any help much appreciated. TIA Pavel |
Re: RAF Ferry Command deliveries - begin of July 1942
You need to check with the DHH in Canada, they might have this.
Have you gotten the men your looking for their Ferry card records? DHH have them. Only problem is you need to show proof they are dead at least 20 years. |
Re: RAF Ferry Command deliveries - begin of July 1942
Hi Dennis,
I have tried to contact the DHH already more than half a year ago without any reply (even if the person in question has been killed already during WWII so no problem to provide a proof). So I have asked one of Canadian friends for help who was able to check the card you have mentioned - there are only the dates + places - no serial. Pavel |
Re: RAF Ferry Command deliveries - begin of July 1942
Hello Pavel,
are you seeking a/c that crossed and got to Great Britain OR for those that went down in the Atlantic ? Alex |
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Re: RAF Ferry Command deliveries - begin of July 1942
Tom Macfadyen of Air-Britain has done extensive research on ferry flights via Prestwick. He shows the following Venturas as arriving there ex-Reykjavik on 4 July 1942:
AE794, 846, 848, and 910, AJ169 and 213. There were also two US Army B-17s, 19043 and 19098 |
Re: RAF Ferry Command deliveries - begin of July 1942
So did Peter Berry
An extract of his notes from early July 1942 Jul 1 Liberator Gander-Prestwick. AL587 B307 Prestwick-Reykjavik. NC19907 B307 Prestwick-Reykjavik. NC19908 B307 Prestwick-Reykjavik. NC19905 7 x Mitchell Gander-Pk. FL681/684/676/680/710/705/193 USAAF C-47 Reykjavik-Stornoway-RK 17833 Jul 1/2 Liberator Gander-Prestwick. RFS AM258 B-24 Gander-Prestwick. "Arnold" 02369 Liberator Prestwick-Gander. RFS AM259 2 x Mitchell Gander-Prestwick. FL710/705 Mitchell Gander-Ballykelly. FL193 USAAF B-17 Reykjavik-Prestwick.First combat a/c.19085 Jul 2 Ventura Gander-Prestwick AE937 Liberator Gander-Prestwick. RFS AM920 Liberator Gander-Prestwick. RFS AL627 Jul 2/3 Mitchell Reykjavik-Prestwick. FL197 Mitchell Gander-Ballykelly/Prestwick FL699 Jul 3 USAAF C-47 Stornoway-Pwk. (Northeast Airlines) 17833 Liberator Prestwick-Montreal. RFS AM920 Liberator Prestwick-Montreal. RFS AM262 Jul 3/4 Ventura Gander-Ballykelly AJ193 2 x Mitchell Gander-Prestwick. FL216/194 Jul 4 Fortress Gander-Prestwick FK201 5 x Mitchell Reykjavik-Prestwick. FL194/195/214/216/687 6 x Ventura Reykjavik-Pwk. AE794/846/910/848/AJ169/213 B-24 Prestwick-Reykjavik. *02369 Liberator Prestwick-Reykjavik. RFS AL587 Jul 4 USAAF C-47 Prestwick-Reykjavik 17833 USAAF 2 x B-17Reykjavik-Prestwick. 19098/19043 Jul 4/5 Liberator Gander-Prestwick."Commando" AL504 Liberator Gander-Prestwick. RFS AM259 Liberator Gander-Prestwick. RFS AL514 Mitchell Gander-Prestwick. FL687 Mitchell Gander-Prestwick. Forced landed Eire. ***** It is probably incomplete, but at least it gives an idea of the build up of aircraft sent over to England. I hope the columns show up OK.... Cheers Stig |
Re: RAF Ferry Command deliveries - begin of July 1942
Hi Stig, thank you for very interesting source.
Pavel |
Re: RAF Ferry Command deliveries - begin of July 1942
AJ213 was piloted by a Danish pilot
25.06.42 Gander-Montral 29.06.42 Montreal-Goose 01-02.07.42 Goose-Reykjavik 04.07.42 Reykjavik-UK He was flying AE782 on the same route from 9.6.42-24.6.42. Information from his crew card at DHH. Mikkel |
Re: RAF Ferry Command deliveries - begin of July 1942
Interesting Mikkel
You mean August and not July for your final two lines. Strangely enough, my information says it was AJ231 and not 213 which arrived. Can you just check the finger trouble is not on your side, please With regard to Ventura AE782 it is not in my lists at all and checking where it went it was to SAAF. As far as I know all their aircraft delivered by air went via the mid-Atlantic route into Accra and from there south bound. Seems very odd that AE782 should have gone via Prestwick. Can you check please?? Cheers Stig |
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