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Pilot 7th February 2007 17:56

Hartman and Starfighter
Did Erich Hartman ever flew on F-104 Starfighter?

Kurt Braatz 7th February 2007 22:10

Re: Hartman and Starfighter
No. Definitely not. He had strong opinions on the 104, but not a second of first-hand experience.

Pilot 7th February 2007 22:35

Re: Hartman and Starfighter
Thank you very much!!! So it might to be that he only flew Fiat G.91? Sorry for this questions but I don't know anything about his post war service :(

Juha 8th February 2007 00:31

Re: Hartman and Starfighter
He flew at least T-33 and F-86.


Kurt Braatz 8th February 2007 00:43

Re: Hartman and Starfighter
Hartmann flew T-6, T-33, F-84 and F-86. Joined the new Luftwaffe in 1956. Did his conventional refresher in Landsberg on T-6s, was converted to jets at Fuerstenfeldbruck (T-33) in '57, then went to the U.S. for combat training on F-84 with Rall, Obleser and a handful of other WW II aces. Became Kommodore of JG 71 "Richthofen" in Ahlhorn, later Wittmund. Quit the Luftwaffe in 1970 as Oberst (Colonel). Wasn't in very high esteem as a leader.

Pilot 8th February 2007 02:25

Re: Hartman and Starfighter
Thank you again gentlemen :)

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