Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
 

Hello,

looking especially for two Losses from 4. Staffel/Zerstörerschule Wunstorf Airfield in Month May 1942

On 23. May 1942 Uffz. Karl Notjung lost his Life due to Mid Air Collision with AR68 between Wunstorf and Nienburg / Linsburg Area.

just six Days later... 29. May 1942, Gefreiter Dieter Hauff (FF) and Gefreiter Klaus Asbahr (BF) AR 96, died in the accident near Rethem / Aller.

Who can support with the GQM and especilly the NVM for this cases....

Best Regards,

streak98

Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
 

I have:
1942-05-23, 4./Zerstörerschule 2, Ar 68 E, 1937, PF+LM, Forst Grinderwald, südöstlich Linsburg, 10 km südöstlich Nienburg (Weser)
Zerstörerschüler Uffz Notjung, Karl, +
Zusammenstoß in der Luft mit Ar 68, Werk.-Nr. 1967, DB+JC. Bruch 100 %.
1942-05-23, Zerstörerschule 2, Ar 68 E, 1967, DB+JC, Borstel, 10 km nordwestlich Neustadt am Rübenberge, 30 km nordwestlich Hannover
Flugzeugführer mit Fallschirm abgesprungen.


Zusammenstoß in der Luft mit Ar 68, Werk.-Nr. 9137, PF+LM. Bruch 100 %.
1942-05-29, 4./Zerstörerschule 2, Ar 96 B-1, 4176, 2 km östlich Rethen, 11 km südöstlich Hannover/Aller
Zerstörerschüler Gefr Hauff, Diether, +
Bordfunkerschüler Gefr Asbahr, Klaus, +
Absturz infolge Motorstörung. Bruch 100 %.

Matti

Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
 

Matti

Something is not quite Koscher here

You list
Ar 68 WNr 1937 PF+LM on 23 May 1942, and
Ar 68 WNr 9137 PF+LM on 29 May 1942

Since WNr 9137 is out of the question I would say WNr 1937 is correct, but I cannot really
see Uffz Karl Notjung being KIFA on the 23rd and the aircraft being destroyed once more on
the 29th.

Any idea?

B Rgds
Stig

Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
 

I think it's only a format error, read it this way:

1942-05-23, Zerstörerschule 2, Ar 68 E, 1967, DB+JC, Borstel, 10 km nordwestlich Neustadt am Rübenberge, 30 km nordwestlich Hannover
Flugzeugführer mit Fallschirm abgesprungen.
Zusammenstoß in der Luft mit Ar 68, Werk.-Nr. 9137, PF+LM. Bruch 100 %.

1942-05-29, 4./Zerstörerschule 2, Ar 96 B-1, 4176, 2 km östlich Rethen, 11 km südöstlich Hannover/Aller
Zerstörerschüler Gefr Hauff, Diether, +
Bordfunkerschüler Gefr Asbahr, Klaus, +
Absturz infolge Motorstörung. Bruch 100 %.

Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
 

Sorry, my computer and clumsy fingers did it again. As Gerhard said, a format error but also a wrong WNr. PF+LM was not 9137 but 1937.

Matti

Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
 

Gentlemen

Thanks for the clarification

Matti, you are excused. Compared to Gerhard in sunny Germany we all have to remember our
freezing winter up north. ;)

Gloves on!! :D

Cheers
Stig

Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
 

Hello Matti,

Thank you very, very much for the information about the losses.... where would we be here in the forum without you... I think I can only say "Thank you for your help" again on behalf of many people here. ...

streak98 (Dirk)

PS: also to Stig and Merlin !!!

Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
 

Hi

Rethen is not on the river Aller, but Rethem is it (50km NNW Hanover).
According to Ancestry, the FF's name is Hanff.

best wishes
JoMe

Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
 

Tricky this one.
Since we are also given a second place indicator (11 km SE Hannover) I think it is Aller which is wrong
and thus Rethen and not Rethem which is correct....

Cheers
Stig

Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
 

Hi Stig

According to Ancestry, Dieter Hanff died near Rothen an der Aller, Klaus Asbahr's died place is 2km O Retthen/Aller.
I have a connection to the Aller River here, so I believe that my location is correct.

best wishes
JoMe