Ju87 D-5 recovered
 

All,

Haven't seen a thread on this one.

https://www.americanheritagemuseum.o...u-87d-5-stuka/

131xxx series were built as a D-3? Late 1943? Lost as D-5 Rebuilt where/when?

This one lost April 44. Wonder if there is an earlier damage record.

Trying to find the Stkz either from other losses or airframe.

The dreaded 1944 black hole period.

regards,

Mark

Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
 

BL+X*, BS+O*, KN+R* and KW+O* are Stkz range used for the 131*** W.Nr. series. Stammkennzeichen.de lists some 1000+ Ju 87 D-5... So there's a lot of digging to be done.

Daniel K who took the photos can be contacted via his website given on the photos - he might have additional information.

Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
 

Hi Mikael,

I think it was built as a D-3, not a D-5 so these Stkz might not be relevant?

I am going to try and find out more.

Thanks for the option to contact the photo taker.

regards,

Mark

Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
 

Ju 87 D-3

CC+FB - 131001->
KJ+XA - 131433->
NS+CA - 131261->
SH+BA - 131185 ->
TS+I* - 1312** unclear

Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
 

But if that photo shows the machine that has been recovered then the longer wingspan and the MG 151 are characteristic of the D-5.

I have NVMs from NSG 9 which give 131086 and 131434 as D-5 (typed as part of the entry) and also 131613 (hand annotation)

From ULTRA, I have these (Note: "Red 286 and 287" are case numbers assigned by German recovery teams, Allied aircraft were all "Black [number]").

14.10.44 CX/MSS/R337(A),51

From ARC 4/VI Köln ((IA Op.)) to Luftgau VI, Luftgau Enineer, on 14.10:-
Subject: a/c (B% out of action)

Red 286 3./NSG 2 1 km. W Niederzier ? Ju 87 D-5 131584 98 D3+DL

Red 287 3./NSG 2 Wolfkeulenhof ? Ju 87 D-5 131628 40 D3+CL

From a corrections page in Gen.Qu. 6. Abt. loss reports:

25.12.44 3./NSG 1 Change unit to 3./NSG 2 Ju 87 D-5 131197

From other reported losses:

02.02.45 2/NSG 2 H Fl.Pl. Köln-Wahn Rollschaden Ju 87 D-5 131387 25
10.02.45 2./NSG 2 F Flettenburg- Absturz Ju 87 D-5 131133 100
24.02.45 3./NSG 1 F Ju 87 D-5 131372 30% (V8+KD)

But also:

10.02.45 2./NSG 2 F Goch abgeschoßen Ju 87 D-3 131102 (D3+LK)

Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
 

Hi Nick,
Correct. Lost as a D-5 but seems to be from a D-3 W.Nr airframe.
Trying to establish if it had previous history as well.
Mark

Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
 

Nick,

Got this from an older post as a D-5 (and from another thread). New build?

D-5
1944-04-24, 8./SG 3, Ju 87 D-5, 140477, S7+CS, 10 km südöstlich Sewastopol

D-3
1943-07-17, 5./St.G 2, Ju 87D-3, 131242, T6+KN, 3 km westlich Marinowka (Pl.Qu. 88252), Absturz infolge Flakbeschuß und Aufschlagbrand. Bruch 100 %.

Again, another post.

Junkers Ju87 D-3 WNr.2700 to WNr.2800
Junkers Ju87 D-3 WNr.2900
Junkers Ju87 D-3 WNr.1000 to WNr.1100 series are the same as the 5 digit 31000 series
Junkers Ju87 D-3 WNr.100 000 to WNr.110 000
Junkers Ju87 D-3 WNr.13.0000 to
Junkers Ju87 D-3 WNr.13.1000 to
Junkers Ju87 D-3 WNr.13.2000 to
Junkers Ju87 D-3 WNr.31000 to WNr.31100 series are the same as the 4 digit 1000 series
Junkers Ju87 D-5 WNr.140 000 to
Junkers Ju87 D-5 WNr.141 000 to
Junkers Ju87 D-5 WNr.142 000 to

Ju87's are not an area of expertise for me so just picking up all the info.

regards,

Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
 

It is too bad the AHM is one of the most dishonest companies on the planet.

Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
 

Hi!

The Finnish Air Observation log data below is directly from mr. Pentti Manninen. I am acting only as a middle man.

Incorrect recording is possible. Especially mixes of P/B, K/G and D/T as these are pronounced differently in Finnish and German (and Estonian). At least part of the communication has been in telephone.

The list may also be incomplete. So what it is worth here are the Ju 87 Stammkennzeichen recorded from 1.1.1943 to 2.11.1944:

BV+YI
PL+BC
HR+GX
KR+GX
VB+NB, NU
VJ+NM, NE
PG+LV
VJ+GN
VJ+NH, NI, NE, NG
PG+LC
NG+EV
PN+EN, ES, EP, EU, ED, EQ, EO,ET,EK
Wnr 5897 25.9.1943 with no Stkz data
SK+VL, VO, VM
PG+JV, JY, JE
PH+RL, RA, RN, RJ, RQ
TS+IS
KT+QD
PH+RQ
BF+DB
CJ+WA
PG+LW
BL+XN, XG
KW+RH
KW+OI
VQ+DB
SK+VN, VQ, VJ
BL+OA->OI
BG+LO, LZ, LC
BL+OQ, OS, OT, OU
BG+LF, LH
BL+OJ->OP, OG
BG+LO
BG+JN, JO, JV, JY, JQ, JT
RK+TV
GN+DD
KH+PP, PQ, PR, PI, PL, PU, PV, PT
PH+RC, RB, RM, RL,
PG+JM, JK, JQ, JX, JV, JY
PG+JR, JO, JN, JX, JW
BH+IA, IB
PH+RB, RE, RL, RA, RN, RQ, RJ
NT+TP

Codes are more or less in chronological order. I do not have the dates.

I don't know if this is of any help.


Cheers,
Kari

Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
 

Thanks Kari
The W/Nr 5897 I have with Stkz BC+EO.
Mikael Olrog from Post 2. Do you have anything more for the BS+O? series with the W/Nr 131???. Thanks