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Adriano Baumgartner 19th February 2020 19:10

Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3
 
Dear all,

I am looking for information concerning FFS or units that operated those 3 trainer machines. I do not have clues to the year or period of time neither.

1- Bücker Bu 131, code DA+CM
An Arado Ar 76 (werk 0713) coded DA+BN was flown by FFS A/B 23 at Kaufbeuren...do not know though if DA+CM could have flown at the same FFS A/B 23...or if those machines were alloted independently of their codes...

2- Focke Wulf Fw 44, code D-EFUN

3- Klemm Kl 35B, code D-EFBV
(It seems from a previous thread that this machine was flown by the A/B-Lehrgang of I/JG 52).

I have tried at those two excellent sites, but got no further information though...

http://www.airhistory.org.uk/gy/reg_D-a5.html
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...unckWerner.htm

Any additional information regarding those machines, most welcomed.

A.

Merlin 19th February 2020 20:50

Re: Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3
 
DA+CM was a Fw 44G WNr. 477 with FFS A/B 110 until it's crash on 7.10.40.
D-EFUV was a Kl 25 WNr. 787 with DLV Bielefeld 1934 - 37
D-EFBV I have the same information as you.

Tom Willis 20th February 2020 01:48

Re: Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3
 
Thanks Adriano & Gerhard
I have DA+CM with the same data as Gerhard but without the W/Nr. This Fw44 W/Nr is listed in the Stkz data-base as NB+ZP but this is clearly a typo/mistake. I do have this W/Nr as DA+ZM but with a ? So I believe that this also is a typo. So thanks to Gerhard for clearing up the anomaly.
The Fw44 - D-EFUN - Ihave as W/Nr.469 with FFS A Kaufbeuren - mid 1938 and Sch/FAR42 in mid 1939
Kl35B - D-EFBV - I have same information
I am not certain why Gerhard has given the KL25dVIIR - D-EFUV as this Registration was not part of the original question. But I have same information but thanks for sharing

JoMe 20th February 2020 13:29

Re: Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3
 
Hi Adiano

D - EFUN / Fw 44 F / 469
DVS Neuruppin?, 11.35 (0%) lost orientation, emergency landing
FFS B Magdeburg, 21-22.05.37 (Magdeburg-Ost)

best wishes
JoMe

Adriano Baumgartner 20th February 2020 14:03

Re: Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3
 
Jo, Tom and Gerhard Stemmer,

First of all: MY GRATITUDE to you all for the information I was looking for (werknummer and Training Units that those machines served).

It is amazing how those machines were switched to one School than to another one, like D-EFUN...I originally thought that they would stay with the same school until being damaged, etc.

Regarding DA+CM and it's crash on the 7th October 1940. Gerhard Stemmer, would you have the name and rank of the Student? Was he flying with a Flying Instructor or alone? What was the cause of the crash? Disorientation whilst doing Aerobatics? Collision in flight? Bad Weather?

MY immense GRATITUDE to you all for those information.

A.

Merlin 20th February 2020 14:47

Re: Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3
 
The DA+CM crashed at Stubendorf due to technical problems resulting to 70% damage. The crew was safe and is not reported.

Adriano Baumgartner 20th February 2020 15:10

Re: Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3
 
Thank you Gerhard!

A.

Jim P. 20th February 2020 17:36

Re: Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3
 
#3 - Tom, I have much the same information as you on the Fw44 WNr.477. My source was the Schulen losses, specifically BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/781, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.12 & p.43.


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