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eknutson 2nd January 2016 22:55

350 Belgian SQN Rodeo 30.7.1942 Damaging Me109 G1 Wrk.Nr 14055
 

We at Sola aviation museum have for Long time search for the information related to our Me109 G1 Wrk.Nr 14055 crash in Audenbert ( France ) 30.07.42.
By coincidence I found that the Belgian 350 Sqn had 2 claims this day.
I have Downloaded the combat reports from Mr Ester and Mr Marshal , and indied, the Me109 with zised engine must be our 14055. But as they say it is not confirmed it landed near or on the airfield of Audenbert.
This reports is also confirmed by the information given in Dr Jochen Priens teil 7 regarding 11(H)Jg26.
I wonder if you can help me with information from other pilots combat reports / logbooks from this day regarding the observations on the landings of these Me109`s
I have contacted Mr. Serge Bonge, but i hope others have some information too.

Regards
Ernst Knutson


Alain57 5th January 2016 15:23

Re: 350 Belgian SQN Rodeo 30.7.1942 Damaging Me109 G1 Wrk.Nr 14055
 
Hi ,

Perhaps this can help :

Escort-Cover Wing: Kenley
RAF 11 Gp. 350 Sqn. 12 Spitfire Vb 18.28 20.04 Ramrod 0 - 1 - 3 Me 109F 1 Cat.B Fighters F-BS: St. Omer/Fort Rouge

Cat.B 30.07.42 P/O H.E. Marchal: WIA 11 Group 350 Sqn. Spitfire Vb: BM176 FW 190s: St. Omer

Claim 30.07.42 F/Lt. Y.G. Du Monceau 11 Group 350 Sqn. 0 - 1 - 0 Me 109F 19.25: Mid-Channel
Claim 30.07.42 F/Lt. Y.G. Du Monceau 11 Group 350 Sqn. 0 - 0 - 1 Me 109F 19.30: Mid-Channel
Claim 30.07.42 Sgt. J. Ester 11 Group 350 Sqn. 0 - 0 - 1 Me 109F 19.30: Dover Straits
Claim 30.07.42 P/O H.E. Marchal 11 Group 350 Sqn. 0 - 0 - 1 Me 109F 19.30: 10 sm. S.W. Dover

Regards
Alain57

Alain57 5th January 2016 15:39

Re: 350 Belgian SQN Rodeo 30.7.1942 Damaging Me109 G1 Wrk.Nr 14055
 
Hi ,

Please check out this site :

http://www.350sqn.be/aircrew.html

Regards

Alain57

eknutson 5th January 2016 21:07

Re: 350 Belgian SQN Rodeo 30.7.1942 Damaging Me109 G1 Wrk.Nr 14055
 
Tanks for your replies.
At the moment there are a " ded end " as i have downloaded all the available digitized combat reports for the 350 sqd around the date 30.7 42.
All these pilots was in the rodeo this day ( + the others mentioned before )
They have several entries but not for the 30.7
So they may have observed the Me109 crashing, but as it is not any action they dont need / shall not write any report ?

Can there still be reports for 30.7 only it is not online ?

Adolf.Lucien.Boussa
P/O Andre.M.Plisnier
P/O Henri.J.Smets
SGT Jean.L.Rigole
P/O Francois.A.Venesoen
SGT Frederic.E.Boute
SGT Louis.V.Flohimont
P/O Georges.F.Deltour
SGT Robert.A.Alexandre

Regards
Ernst

eknutson 11th January 2016 21:15

Re: 350 Belgian SQN Rodeo 30.7.1942 Damaging Me109 G1 Wrk.Nr 14055
 
Is there any remains off these Spitfire Mk vb stored somwhere ?

I have tryed to serch, but i am not any expert on the type


EN769 BM564 AD322 BL621 BM240 EN794 EN796 AD228 BM176 AD912 AR373

Allan125 16th January 2016 03:23

Re: 350 Belgian SQN Rodeo 30.7.1942 Damaging Me109 G1 Wrk.Nr 14055
 
Hi

You should find out about those aircraft from here

http://www.airhistory.org.uk/spitfire/home.html

For example data on EN769 can be found on this page

http://www.airhistory.org.uk/spitfire/p036.html

Hope it helps

Allan

350Sqn 5th June 2023 21:25

Re: 350 Belgian SQN Rodeo 30.7.1942 Damaging Me109 G1 Wrk.Nr 14055
 
PERSONAL COMBAT REPORT - F/L du MONCEAU D.F.C. (BELGIAN) RAMROD 30/7/42
FORM “F”
From : F/L DU MONCEAU de BERGENDAL D.F.C.
To :
Date A. 30/7/42.
Unit B. 350 (Belgian) Squadron.
Type and mark of our aircraft C. Spitfire VB
Time attack was delivered D. Roughly 19.25 -19.30 hours.
Place of attack E. Mid CHANNEL.
Weather F. Hazy, 2/10 low cloud.
Our Casualties – Aircraft G. NIL
Our Casualties – Personnel H. NIL
Enemy casualties in air combat J. 1 Me 109F probable
1 Me 109F damaged
Enemy casualties ground or sea targets K. N/A
GENERAL REPORT :
I was Blue 1 in top Squadron of KENLEY Wing. When the Wing, on its way back from the ST. OMER area, was in Mid CHANNEL plots
given by MICKEY ground station seemed to be fairly near and while Wing turned to port I gained a couple of thousand feet reaching 17.000 feet.
On the turn 3 E/A approached from behind with the probable intention of attacking Red and Yellow Sections. They changed their minds
and came up behind us being signalled by Blue 2 (Sgt. ESTER). I turned left, Blue 2 turned right, and Blue 3 and 4 turned left climbing slightly.
The E/A (Me 109F) tried to dive away. A loose dogfight ensued, some more E/A coming from the North East joining in. I got a burst in from
dead astern, range 350 yards, on an Me 109 at 17.000 feet which had speed advantage. E/A started emitting a stream of black smoke seen by Blue
3 (Sgt. FLOHIMONT) about 800 yards behind E/A. I claim this E/A as damaged.
Soon afterwards I saw Blue 2 chasing 1 Me 109F and scoring hits which caused loss of glycol and white smoke to appear from the
fuselage - probably petrol. E/A took no evasive action.
Then another Me 109F came from the left to attack Blue 2. I managed to get a short burst at 3/4 beam giving 2 ½ rings deflection. I saw
cannon hits on the cockpit and from that moment the E/A was out of control. It had speed advantage at first and after I had turned right behind him at
350 yards flying more or less on its side at 15.000 feet. It stayed in that position for a few seconds. I exhausted my ammunition on him and E/A
pulled up sideways, somehow pulled up and spun once more. I had to break away as I was out of ammunition and as 2 unidentified aircraft were
flying towards me. I claim this second E/A as probably destroyed. I am certain the pilot had been hit and was hardly capable of flying the aircraft. In
all his manoeuvres up to the moment I had to break away, E/A lost at least 10.000 feet and was still going down spinning.
An aircraft was seen going in slightly South of DOVER - GRIS NEZ, and halfway between those points. This would be more like one of the
planes COINER Blue Section engaged but I cannot claim it as mine not having followed down second.
Signed,
I. G. du MONCEAU D.F.C. F/L.
Took off KENLEY : 18.30 hours.
Landed KENLEY : 19.40 hours.
Rounds fired : AP 303 600
Inc.Mk. VI.Z 200
Ball 20 mm. 60
HE 20 mm. 60
Cine camera exposed
F. L . FLOHIMONT


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