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Henofred 14th August 2013 11:25
Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews
 
Bonjour,

I am looking for information about the two aircrews below:

I would like to know the crew positions and aircraft data for this crew belonging to the KG 4 (11. or 12. Staffel?) and lost on July 7, 1943:
Uffz. Callenbach Georg
Lt. Stockhusen Helmut
Gefr. Emde Friedrich
Olt. Roemer Dietrich
Gerfr. Ochsmann Manfred
Ogefr. Rupprecht Heinrich
Ofw. Bösenberg Bernard

And I would like also to know the crew positions for these airmen belonging to the 9./KG 40, whose Fw-200 was shot-down on January 27, 1944:
Fw. Nothelfer Karl
Uffz. Schwarz Walter
Uffz. Prettner Raimund
Ofw. Schmidt Willy Anton
Uffz. Reinhardt Wilhelm

Thanks a lot beforehand for your assistance.
Best regards,
Frederic

Brian Bines 14th August 2013 14:18
Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews
 
Hi Frederic - found this entry on GQM report dated 10-7-43 :- 6-7-43 'H' He111 H6 4263 of IV/KG4 crashed in flames by La Charite 100%. FF Ltn. Helmut Stockhusen, Bf Uffz. Georg Callenbach, Bm Pruf.a.E Heinz Hinkelmann, Bm Werka.E Max Buttner all killed. The date is confirmed on a later entry dated 13-1-43 whish is clearer to read which appears to change the status of Hinkelmann and Buttner from aircrew to ground personnel ?

Regards

Brian Bines

Henofred 14th August 2013 14:46
Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews
 
Hello Brian,

Thank you for these details. As I have the Bourges "Heldenfriedhof" list I will check for the names of Hinkelmann and Buttner. I made a mistake of date with the five last airmen of KG 4. The right date is August 23, 1943. Plane hit a power-line while flying at low level near St Thiebault (a place known as "Beaufroid")

All the best,
Frederic

Brian Bines 14th August 2013 15:14
Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews
 
Hello Frederic, just found the second one, GQM report dated 26-8-43 - on 23-8-43 IV/KG4 'H' by Bannay crashed and burnt out following engine trouble He111H6 4919 1005, Ff Ofw Hermann Bosenberg (umlaut over o), B Oblt.Dieter Romer (umlaut over o), B Gef.Fritz Emde, Bf Ogef Heinrich Rupprecht, Bs Gef Manfred Ochsmann all killed,

Regards

Brian Bines

Henofred 14th August 2013 15:26
Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews
 
Bonjour Brian,

Thank you so much for these additional details. I keep you posted about the ground personnel.

See you soon,
Frederic

edNorth 14th August 2013 18:35
Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews
 
Fw 200, date 27.01.1944, One shot down near Bourges, France, by RAF Mosquitos of 418 (RCAF) SQ (apx 16:30 hrs). No W.Nr., code or crew positions in old file of mine.

Henofred 14th August 2013 18:55
Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews
 
Hello edNorth,

I got the details via my private email address. Thanks you for your answer.

All the best,
Frederic

Chris Goss 16th August 2013 15:16
Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews
 
In respect of the Fw 200, Schmidt-F, Reinhardt-B, Schwarz. & Prettner-BF & Nothelfer-BM

Henofred 16th August 2013 17:27
Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews
 
Hello and merci Chris for these details.

I take the opportunity to ask you. Any other accidents while the KG 40 was at Avord airfield? Aircrafts damaged without airmen injured.

Greetings frome France,
Frederic

Chris Goss 16th August 2013 17:29
Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews
 
If it was 1944, I am afraid unless there were casualties, getting details are highly unlikely.


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