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Theo Boiten 13th May 2019 19:17

Identity of four Lt. pilots of prob. I./ZG1, taken before 15.7.40?
 
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Dear all,

Who could help me identify these four Leutnant pilots of (probably) I./ZG1; the photo I believe was taken before 15 July 1940. The only know pilot to me is Lt. Knacke, on the far right.

Cheers and thanks for any info,

Theo

Chris Goss 14th May 2019 08:24

Re: Identity of four Lt. pilots of prob. I./ZG1, taken before 15.7.40?
 
A group photo I have of the officers of I./ZG 1 taken prior to April 1940 has none of these in it if this helps

sidney 14th May 2019 09:43

Re: Identity of four Lt. pilots of prob. I./ZG1, taken before 15.7.40?
 
Perhaps the photo was taken a couple of years earlier, when the Gruppe was known as II.(schwere)/JG 132? There is a photo of three young officers in Eric Mombeeck's series of books on JG 2, Volume 1, page 31. Some of these may be a match.

Theo Boiten 15th May 2019 00:06

Re: Identity of four Lt. pilots of prob. I./ZG1, taken before 15.7.40?
 
Thanks for your replies chaps. And Sidney; I've no info that Knacke did serve with II.(schwere)/JG132 before he joined 3./ZG1. I don't have the Mombeek book that you mention -perhaps someone who does could compare the officers in both photos and see if there's a (partial) match?

Cheers, Theo

Snautzer 15th May 2019 08:37

Re: Identity of four Lt. pilots of prob. I./ZG1, taken before 15.7.40?
 
This picture was on eBay recently. Perhaps seller knows more

Marcel Hogenhuis 15th May 2019 12:22

Re: Identity of four Lt. pilots of prob. I./ZG1, taken before 15.7.40?
 
Hello Theo,

The man to the right of Knacke shows similarity with the Leutnant on the I./ZG 1 group photo to the far right but... still no names known to me. Will check my file of portraits pictures (partially unknown men of the I./NJG 1) whether there are any hits tonight.

Best regards, Marcel

Theo Boiten 15th May 2019 22:27

Re: Identity of four Lt. pilots of prob. I./ZG1, taken before 15.7.40?
 
Thanks for that Marcel -it would be great if you could find any matching faces. And Snautzer; could you please post a link to the ebay auction of the photo?

Cheers and thanks, Theo

Marcel Hogenhuis 19th May 2019 23:11

Re: Identity of four Lt. pilots of prob. I./ZG1, taken before 15.7.40?
 
Hello Theo,

It took more time than expected but no other men of your photo do match with men of which I do have photo's but no names. On the other hand, I have several Leutnante in my 434 names list of flying personel of the I./NJG 1 which I can't match to any photo's... Grrr!

We should not forget that many men of the I./ZG 1 were not taken over in the I./NJG 1 whereas this last unit got many new members from other ZG units (or NJ-Schule).

So, unfortunately no further info... Best regards,

Marcel

Theo Boiten 20th May 2019 08:07

Re: Identity of four Lt. pilots of prob. I./ZG1, taken before 15.7.40?
 
Thanks a lot Marcel for making the effort -some you win, some you don't..

Cheers, Theo


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