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Dear Unikum,

Thanks a lot again for your help. Many of the pics you kindly post are already on Flickr, but not all. I discovered with a huge pleasure:

- the 13./JG 300 Bf 109 G-14 in Reinslehen, October 1944.
- the possibly JG 300 "Schwarze 14", another of the Bf 109 G-14 surrounding Ju 290 W.Nr. 110 162 "9V+EK" at Salzburg Maxglan airfield in May 1945.
- and the fine Erla G-14 with the GI posing in front.

Really a G-14 evening here in Geneva. Thanks for that, Unikum, and thanks for helping me expand this visual encyclopedia of late war Bf 109's.
Marc

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Hi there Gang,

Having now more then 2'000 referenced late war Bf 109 pics available on Flickr, I just created new sets for grouping by airfields all those Bf 109 pics. This will make it easier to cross reference the photos. Given time, it'll probably allow us to identify more machines.

I seize this opportunity to thank you all for your continuous support and inputs; we're really building up together a visual reference tool which I hope will help all researches.
Marc

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Excellent, Unikum:

Here is what I can say towards your latest attachments:

1. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. unknown "Schwarze 3 or 8", unit and location unknown, Germany, Autumn 1944. I'm pretty sure the RK pilot can be identified. Who knows more?
2. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. unknown, "Weisse 7", 13./JG 5, Sola, Summer 1945.
3. Bf 109 G-6/R6 W.Nr. and unit unknown, Hangelar (?), 5 March 1944. A very interesting shot thanks to the caption I read only partially. Who can help reading more?
4-5. Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Weisse 1", I. or III./JG 27, Germany, Spring 1945. The case for a G-10 is won by the 56 liters oil tank filler cap, clearly in the high position.
6.Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Weisse 1", II./JG 52, Neubieberg, Summer 1945.

Thank so much Unikum. Looking forward for your next posts!
Marc

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Hello Marc,

let me add some thoughts on the fotos in your last posting:

#1
shows a rather scruffy Bf109 with a retrofitted Erlahaube. So this is a Bf109G-6, not a G-14. Most interesting is the old-fashioned high antenna-mast, something I have not seen yet with Erlahauben. As for the pilot: I can't see a Ritterkeuz. Are my eyes getting old and tired?

#3
I don't want to act like a wisenheimer, but I'd like to point at the fact, that there never was something like a Bf109G-6/R6. This labeling is pure fiction invented a long time ago by some writers and since then repeated over and over again. There is no common agreement how to name such a/c, I myself use "Bf109G-6 with Rüstsatz VI" (or "Rüstsatz 6" oder "Gondelwaffen").

The writing on the back of the foto may be
"In xxxxxx Liebe"
"xxxx Mann"
München, d. 5.3.44"
what may be translated as
"Forever loving you"
"your husband"
"Munich, 5th March 1944"

Time and location point towards an aircraft from JG3 which was in southern Bavaria in early sping 1944.


#6
is indeed one of the IIJG52 aircraft flown over to Neubiberg to surrender.
As you can see, it has an overpainted "PIK-AS" shield on its cowlings and therefore is one of the former IJG53 planes, incorporated into IIJG52, when IJG53 was disbanded in April 1945.

HTH

Carl

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Hallo Charles,

Many thanks for your precisions. They are much appreciated.

Considering the denomination issue for "Gondelwaffen", I will choose from now on your "Rüstsatz VI" mode. Thanks for reading the writing and proposing a unit!

Cheers
Marc

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27.09.2012:
Vážení Unikum,

Díky moc opět za vaši pomoc. Mnoho z pics si laskavě Post jsou již na Flickr, ale ne všechny. Zjistil jsem, s obrovským potěšením:

- 13./JG 300 Bf 109 G-14 v Reinslehen října 1944.
- Možná JG 300 "Schwarze 14", další z Bf 109 G-14 okolních Ju 290 W.Nr. 110 162 "9V + EK" v Salcburku Maxglan letišti v květnu 1945.
- A jemné Erla G-14 s GI pózuje před.

Opravdu G-14 večer tady v Ženevě. Díky za to, že Unikum, a díky za pomoc, abych rozšířit tuto vizuální encyklopedii pozdě války Messerschmitt Bf 109.
Marc

29.09.2012:
Zde je to, co mohu říci, k vaší poslední příloh:

1. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. unknown "Schwarze 3 nebo 8", jednotka a umístění neznámé, Německo, podzim 1944. Jsem si jistá, pilot RK lze identifikovat. Kdo ví víc?
2. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. neznámý, "Weisse 7", 13./JG 5, Sola, léto 1945.
3. Bf 109 G-6/R6 W.Nr. a jednotka neznámá, Mnichov, 5. března 1944. A velmi zajímavé záběr díky titulek jsem četl jen částečně. Kdo může pomoci číst více?
4-5. Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Weisse 1", I. a III. / JG 27, Německo, jaro 1945.Případ pro G-10 je vyhrána 56 l nádrže oleje víčkem nádrže, jasně ve vysoké poloze.
6.Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Weisse 1", II. / JG 52, Neubieberg, léto 1945.

Děkuji tolik Unikum. Těšíme se na vaše další příspěvky!
Marc

Cheers
Marc

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OK.Search my archiv photos from internet and Ebayi a upload next .

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Excellent, thanks!
Marc

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Hi there gang,

and again a new riddle to solve: I just found those three pics on Historical-media.com' latest online auction:
http://www.historical-media.com/einz...2012.10.1.html

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/

As I don't see the air scoop under the left windscreen, I tend to think this might be a G-5/AS. Notice the total lack of any markings and the highly waxed and polished finish conferring a dark hue to the plane's camouflage.

Though not as dark, this machine makes me think of Oblt. Manfred Dieterle's Bf 109 G-6/AS W.Nr unknown "Grüne 5", 2./Erg. JG 2, photographed at Ludwigslust in December 1944 and then again in May 1945 at Hagenow-Land.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625383083572

Any ideas as to where? And which unit?

Thanks in advance
Marc

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To follow up with this morning's great find,

you will find uploaded here the Bf 109's:

Bf 109 G-14 (?) with Me 262 and Fw 190 D-9:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/

Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. unknown "Schwarze 28+J", training unit.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/

Bf 109 K-4 W.Nr. 334 209, unit unknown.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 464 362, burnt down:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/

Bf 109 G-14/AS W.Nr. unknown "Weisse 12", 1./JG ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/

Bf 109 G-12 W.Nr. unknown "Weisse 31"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/

One big question remains: where were the pics taken?

Cheers
Marc

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Many thanks Unikum,

I will check them and come back with what info I'll have found.
Cheers
Marc

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Wow, fascinating pics you share with us here!

I'll be back to you later this evening... Still some work to do!
Thanks a lot Unikum!

Wow, fascinující fotky sdílíte s námi!

Vrátím se k vám později dnes večer ... Stále ještě co na práci!
Díky moc Unikum!

Marc

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Unikum, here we go:

Post 374:
266a_12: Bf 109 G-6 or G-14, Salzburg, May 1945. Notice Ju 88 A W.Nr. 301 558 "L1+BM", II./LG 2.
4424_1: Bf 109 G-6 "Schwarzer Balken O", Gruppen Technischer Offizier, unknown unit.
uiuuzi and lololol Bf 109 G-6 "Gelbe ?", II./JG ?.
Bf109-26-11-200-010: Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Gelbe 1", JGr 300, Germany, April 1945. Source: ebay.de. Note the black II Gruppe bar, a tell tale sign for JGr 300.
Bf109-10-01-2008-027: Bf 109 E-4 or E-7.

Post 375:
Bf109-10-2008-02-002 Bf 109 F or G.
Bf109-03-03-2008-001: Bf 109 G-6 "Doppelbalken 0", Geschwader Major beim Stab./JG 77, Ferrara (?) Spring 1944.
Bf109-11-10-2007-001:Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 15 458 "Schwarze 10", Lt. Joachim Göhre, 8./JG 1, Leeuwarden, Summer 1943. Published in LiF 12, 2007, p. 12.

Post 376:
Bf109-03-09-2009-015: Bf 109 G-6.

Post 378:
Bf109-0123, -0116 and -0108: Bf 109 G-6 "Weisse 10", II/JGr 50 (?) Wiesbaden-Erbensheim (?) (my guess)...
Bf109-0283: Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. unknown "Blaue 9", Fw. Hans Steiner, 14./JG 5, Stavanger Forus, early 1945. Source: Ebay auction. Published in Brekken and Akra 2008, p. 132.
Bf109-0034: Bf 109 G-6/AS or G-14/AS, Summer 1944. A beautiful picture.
Bf109-0196: Bf 109 G-14 "Schwarze 275", JG 102 (?)

I stop here for tonight... Many many thanks again, Unikum.

PS: I hope the TOCH community will help sort out all mistakes I'v just made;-))

Cheers
Marc

Unikum, jdeme na to:

Příspěvek 374:
[u] 266a_12 [/ U]: Bf 109 G-6 nebo G-14, Salzburg, květen 1945. Upozornění Ju 88 W.Nr. 301 558 "L1 + BM", II. / LG 2.
[u] 4424_1 [/ U]: Bf 109 G-6 "Schwarzer Balken O", Gruppen Technischer Offizier, neznámé jednotky.
[u] uiuuzi a lololol [/ U] Bf 109 G-6 "Gelbe?", II. / JG?.
[u] Bf109-26-11-200-010 [/ U]: Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Gelbe 1", JGR 300, Německo, duben 1945. Zdroj: ebay.de. Poznámka: černý II Gruppe bar, Tell Tale znamení pro JGR 300.
[u] Bf109-10-01-2008-027 [/ U]: Bf 109 E-4 nebo E-7.

Příspěvek 375:
[u] Bf109-10-2008-02-002 [/ U] Bf 109 F nebo G.
[u] Bf109-03-03-2008-001 [/ U]: Bf 109 G-6 "Doppelbalken 0", Geschwader Major beim Stab / JG 77, Ferrara jaro 1944. (?).
[u] Bf109-11-10-2007-001 [/ U]: Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 15 458 "Schwarze 10", poručík Joachim Göhre, 8./JG 1, Leeuwarden, léto 1943. Publikováno v LIF 12, 2007, s.. 12.

Příspěvek 376:
[u] Bf109-03-09-2009-015 [/ U]: Bf 109 G-6.

Příspěvek 378:
[u] Bf109-0123, -0116 a -0108 [/ U]: (?) (?) Bf 109 G-6 "Weisse 10", II / JGR 50 Wiesbaden-Erbensheim (můj odhad) ...
[u] Bf109-0283 [/ U]: Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. unknown "Blaue 9", Fw. Hans Steiner, 14./JG 5, Stavanger Forus, brzy 1945. Zdroj: Ebay aukce. Publikováno v Brekken a Akra 2008, s.. 132.
[u] Bf109-0034 [/ U]: Bf 109 G-6/AS nebo G-14/AS, Letní 1944.Krásný obrázek.
[u] Bf109-0196 [/ U]: Bf 109 G-14 "Schwarze 275", JG 102 (?)

I tady zastavit na večer ... Mnoho mnoho ještě jednou díky, Unikum.

PS: Doufám, že komunita TOCH pomůže vyřešit všechny chyby I'v jen dělal;-))

Na zdraví
Marc

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My Attach Files is full.Next weekend upload next.
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Hello Unikum,

thanks for the pictures...
If your attach files box is full you can already remove the following ones. They have been put in auction on eBay since long, already commented - many times here and in LEMB - and already in Marc Flikr's photostream.
For the rest I'm not sure, yet.

Here we go: (to remove)
post # 388, second from left (see David site too). still put in auction regularily.
post # 389, first from left. Still put in auction regularily.
post # 390, first, second, fifth and sixth. Still put in auction regularily since this seller is offering copies, not original.

regards, Franck.

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What is the name this pilots from JG3 ??? :

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/attach...5&d=1349590633

I still looking for photo with: Gunter Rabeler from Stab I , 2./JG3 , Werk Nr.490362, '"Schwarze 9""

Kris

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Many many thanks Unikum!

I'm unfortunately in a work phase which leaves me with no time to carry on my Flickr page... I'll be back with more information at the beginning of November.

Cheers
Marc

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Many thanks to those who can post without using sites that require "log-on"!
Some very good pictures on here, Thankyou!

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Hi Guys,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/8164162316/

Cheers, Franck.

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Thanks for your enlightenment, Franck; as always, much appreciated!

Cheers
Marc

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At last!...
You're welcome Marc.

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http://www.me109.info/display.php?a=e&fid=2798

for example.
All pictures are in the said monthly.
At the article's end, you can find an add for a book where it is pretended you can find his dairy!

Try this if you have time .. it's tiring down there :D. (thanks to Matthew)
http://avaxhome.ws/magazines/military/

Cheers, Franck.

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Dear all!

I just uploaded a serie of new pics of late war Bf 109's. High among them is a shot of crash landed Bf 109 K-4 "Gelbe 20", III./JG 53:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

I remember the authenticity of this picture has been disputed because of the "body" seen in the cockpit which condition did not match the thoroughly degraded state of the wreck, with its swastika already hacked out, among others... IMHO, the picture is genuine, and there is a person sitting for the pic in the cockpit who moved his head at the wrong moment...

Any suggestions? Any more details as to which particular machine? Any W.Nr.? Good challenges there to start a great 2013;-))

Cheers
Marc

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Hi gang,

Another issue arises: where was this well known serie shot? My current guess is Erla Leipzig. Any confirmation would be much appreciated!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Cheers
Marc