Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/index.php)
-   Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/forumdisplay.php?f=8)
-   -   StaKas 2./JG77 ? (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=30098)

fran 20th June 2012 20:56

StaKas 2./JG77 ?
 
Could somebody list the StaKas of 2./JG77 in the period of 1940 more or less?
Thank you
Fran

Leo Etgen 20th June 2012 23:54

Staffelkapitäne of 2./JG 77
 
Hello Fran

I have the following:

Oberleutnant Hannes Trautloft from 1 September 1939, Oberleutnant Ekkehard Priebe from 19 September 1939 and Oberleutnant Franz Hahn from 31 August 1940. I./JG 77 was redesignated IV./JG 51 on 21 November 1940.

I hope this helps.

Horrido!

Leo

fran 21st June 2012 21:11

Re: StaKas 2./JG77 ?
 
Thanks Leo;
Very useful

fran 24th June 2012 21:17

Re: StaKas 2./JG77 ?
 
Now I have a doubt; did wear the 2./JG77 the top hat emblem in a white circle at the rear in the fuse? other sources says I./LG2
Regards

Miguel 25th June 2012 00:40

Re: StaKas 2./JG77 ?
 
Hello Fran

Both are correct, because I(J)/LG2 was redesignated I/JG77 at the beginning of 1942.
This is a different I/JG77, the third one. As Leo says, the first one was at that time IV/JG51 and the second I/JG77, created in 1941 at Norway was redesignated I/JG5 in 1942.

Regards
Miguel

fran 25th June 2012 01:05

Re: StaKas 2./JG77 ?
 
The attached photo depics a Bf109E-3 so the period I am referring to is about 1940. What unit sported the top hat at that time??

Regards

Leo Etgen 25th June 2012 01:50

2.(J)/LG 2
 
2 Attachment(s)
Hello Fran

It appears that this photograph may depict fighters of 2.(J)/LG 2. I have read that this unit contained numerous former members of the Legion Conder and that its emblem was based upon that of 2./J 88. Here are two further photographs of fighters of 2.(J)/LG 2.

Horrido!

Leo

ChrisS 25th June 2012 11:07

Re: StaKas 2./JG77 ?
 
Hi Fran & Leo

I also have this image, not certain if this is an orginal colour or colourised photo.

Cheers

Chris

fran 25th June 2012 15:04

Re: StaKas 2./JG77 ?
 
It is the same plane I posted in the same flight so has been colorized. Pictures are stills from b/w IWM footage.
The motto painted in the nose in spanish language suggest the pilot was a L.Condor veteran. Probably Herbert Ihlefeld before being appointed staffelkapitan? other candidates?

Regards

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisS (Post 150262)
Hi Fran & Leo

I also have this image, not certain if this is an orginal colour or colourised photo.

Cheers

Chris


Jim P. 27th June 2012 01:37

Re: StaKas 2./JG77 ?
 
Published in LW in Focus #2 is a rather significant transcription of the Bestandsliste/aircraft assignments from 2.(J) and 3.(J)/LG 2 from March-40. Depending upon the date of the photo, much of this information was still valid into the summer of 1940. Sorry, they are out of order due to the way they popped up from the sorting by date of my db. 'Black 11' is among them.
Bf 109E-1, 3383, Reserve, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 15 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-1, 3540, Jaeger, Oblt. Hans-Erwin, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 5 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-1, 3376, Schiller, Uffz., , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 14 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-1, 4078, Lenz, Ltn. Ludwig, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 3 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-1, 3318, Görbing, Fw. Kurt, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 13 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-1, 0691, Schmitz, Uffz., , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 8 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 5071, ./., , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 4 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 0710, Graner, Oblt. Georg, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 1 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Stkp. Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 0953, Wangerov, Oblt. Friedrich von, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 1 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Stkp. Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 0681, Braukmann, Uffz. Helmut, , I., 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 4 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 703, MERTENS, Ltn. Helmut, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 12 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 1354, Steinbach, Ofw., , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 5 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 1142, Striberny, Ltn. Albert, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 10 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 1136, Straznicky, Ltn. Erwin, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 9 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 0687, Reserve, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 7 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 1355, Stab?, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 3 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 1168, Krause, Ofw. Siegfried, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 8 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 0723, CLAUSEN, Ofw. Erwin, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 6 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 0699, Staege, Ofw. Hermann, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 11 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, II, p.502 photo; LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 3545, Rauhut, Gefr. Herbert, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 11 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 1235, Tismar, Ltn. Werner, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 2 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 1288, Perthes, Ltn. Hasso von, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 2 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 0688, Schott, Ofw. Georg, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 6 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 08:58.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net