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Evgeny Velichko 22nd July 2009 18:50

Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
Greetings!

I am trying to find a fate of each Bf110C-7 built. This was a some kind rare aircraft, only 39 were made.

I think some of them were lost during Battle of Britain, and then Balkan Campaign... Does anybody have info about that aircrafts? Losslists could tell us wrong modification but W.Nr. will tell the truth, I think. I saw many times "C-7" was naturally C-2 or D-3... Need just compare W.Nr. with block, mentioned below.

C-7's in Zerstorergeschwader 1:

I and II Gruppe had 1 C-7 each, and both of them are known (see below).

C-7's in Zerstorergeschwader 2:

I./ZG2 had in june 1942 7 Bf110C-7, and 2 were lost due to enemy action in this month.
Then trace of C-7 in this regiment is lost.

II./ZG 2 had 3 C-7 in june 1942, and got 1 more during that month (received from other regiment). 1 of them was lost during month, and trace of others lost (next month Gruppe lost 9 Bf110, and all others were transferred to other regiments).

C-7's in Zerstorergeschwader 26:

Unfortunatly I have no info about Bf110C-7 with I and II Gruppe during 1941-early 1942.

III./ZG26 had in march 1942 7 Bf110C-7, and received 1 more during month (from another unit).

In April, 2 Bf110C-7 was lost w/o enemy action, and 5 were moved to repair. So, 1 left.

That last was lost due to enemy action in june 42.

Totally:

C-7's, converted from C-5 on GWF in july 1940 (4 aircrafts totally - W.Nr. block - 2245 - 2248):

W.Nr.2245 - was damaged while with Stab/St.G. 1 on 29.3.43. on 30% at Fl.Pl. Brjansk
W.Nr.2246 - fate unkn.
W.Nr.2247 - (S9+KK) of 2./ZG 1 was shot down by Flak on 25.11.42.
W.Nr.2248 - fate unkn.

C-7's, converted from C-4 on Miag in july-august 1940 (35 aircrafts totally, W.Nr. block - 3618 - 3652):

W.Nr.3623 - (TD+KD) of Sonderst. (GS) was lost over Esel isle, due to Flak.
W.Nr.3650 of 6./ZG 1 was hit during enemy attack on Krasnodar airfield on 29.09.42.

Warm regards, Evgeny.

John Vasco 23rd July 2009 12:53

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
Evgeny,

W. Nr. 2248
Shown in the Petrick/Mankau book as a Bf 110 C-7.

From Luftwaffe loss records:
Bf 110 D-0
W. Nr. 2248
2./Erprobungsgruppe 210
S9+GK
Lost in action on 27th September 1940. Shot down into the English Channel.
Crew: Oblt. Wilhelm-Richard Rossiger (P) Staffelkapitän; Ofw. Hans Marx (Bf). Both killed.

John Vasco 23rd July 2009 13:01

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
Another one:

W. Nr.3648
Shown in Petrick/Mankau book as a C-7

From Luftwaffe loss records:
Bf 110 C-4/B
W. Nr. 3648
2./Erprobungsgruppe 210
S9+JK
Lost in action on 17th November 1940. Shot down into the North Sea.
Crew: Uffz. Johannes Kowatsch (P); Uffz. Hans-Georg Bade (Bf). Both killed.

Note: Although this aircraft is given as a 'C-4/B' in the records, I believe that it was probably a 'C-4' that had undergone repair and had bomb racks fitted, and designated as a 'C-7' by the factory. The paperwork which accompanied the aircraft wherever it went would show it as a 'C-4', and therefore at unit level it would be recorded as a 'C-4' with bomb racks, i.e. a C-4/B. Is that logical?

Evgeny Velichko 23rd July 2009 13:44

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
THX for reply, John.

But I thought bombracks were recordered as "M1" or something, as for D-3 and E-1 at that time such munitions were used and recordered... Am I wrong?

Note: "1940's" C-7 are only ex-C-4 and ex-C-5 (according Petrick). But there are many "another" C-7's, wich appear in 1941-44, and their W.Nr.'s are in (most of them) from C-2 blocks. I think that "early" C-7's were made on factory, but "other" C-7's were tuned-up after repair.

Seaplanes 23rd July 2009 18:31

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
According to the RLM production reports it was initially ordered 39 Bf 110C-7 aircraft. Gotha delivered 4 Bf 110C-7 and Miag should have delivered another 35 Bf 110C-7. However, the whole Miag production was delivered with the designation C-4/B. All 39 aircraft came from new production, and as far as I know, no other Bf 110 types were later converted to C-7 configuration.

John Vasco 23rd July 2009 20:21

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seaplanes (Post 89264)
According to the RLM production reports it was initially ordered 39 Bf 110C-7 aircraft. Gotha delivered 4 Bf 110C-7 and Miag should have delivered another 35 Bf 110C-7. However, the whole Miag production was delivered with the designation C-4/B. All 39 aircraft came from new production, and as far as I know, no other Bf 110 types were later converted to C-7 configuration.

Rather flies in the face of what Petrick/Mankau set down in their book, then.

Jim P. 24th July 2009 00:59

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
Here's what I have. No guarantee that reported subtypes are correct (Or how final format looks as posted!): , , Bf 110C-7, 3631, n.n., , ZG 26, Stab III., , 3U+BD, TD+KG, , 1941., , , Afrika, Air Fan 11/81 p.16 photo, , , -, F
, , Bf 110C-7, 3037?, Kaschka, Major Karl, , ZG 26, Stab III., grüne A, 3U+AD, , , Kdr. Spring 1941., , , Afrika, Air Fan 11/81 p.14; 10/81 p.26 photo; Luftkrieg über Afrika, II, p.27 photo, , Sicilien, -, F
16-Jan-41, , Bf 110C-7, 3632, n.n., , ZG 26, III., , , TD+KH, , Undercarriage damage., , , X.Fl.Korp/Mittelmeer, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; FB Caspar Stein, , Palermo, 100%, F
22-Jan-41, , Bf 110C-7, 3505, Ullrich, Uffz. Karl, , ZG 26, I., , , , , Crew killed in crash., Bf Ogefr. Walter Meinert, , Lfl.3/Deutschland, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Foreman, 1941-The Turning Point, I, p.79, , Memmingen, 100%, H
11-Mar-41, , Bf 110C-7, 2057, Weegmann, Oblt. Horst von, , NJG 3, 1., , L1+BH, , black finish, MIA, believed due to Luftkampf with RAF fighter. Bf KIA., Bf Uffz. Wilhelm Banser, Accidently struck ground per loss and Balss., X.Fl.Korp/Mittelmeer, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Shores, Cull, et al, Malta:The Hurricane Years, p.166; Air Fan 12/81, p.34, Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.18, (Malta), 100%, F
13-Mar-41, , Bf 110C-7, 2245, n.n., , NJG 3, 3., , , NJ+ZS, , Taxiing accident., , , Lfl.2/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.18; Foreman, 1941-The Turning Point, I, p.238, , Fl.Pl. Vechta, 20%, H
09-May-41, , Bf 110C-7, 3561, n.n., , Zerst.Sch. 1, , , , , , Undercarriage damage during landing., , , Lfl.3/Deutschland, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle bei Schulen usw., p.276, , Fl.Pl. Schließheim, 10%, H
11-Jun-41, , Bf 110C-7, 2247, n.n., , ZG 76, III., , , NJ+ZU*, , Bruchlandung., , Mombeek, Eismeerjäger, V.I, p.288, Lfl.5/Norwegen, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5; Foreman, 1941-The Turning Point, II, p.299, , Fl.Pl. Mandal, 30%, H
30-Jun-41, , Bf 110C-7, 2075, n.n., , NJG 1, 4., , G9+JM, , , Midair collision during Luftkampf training with Bf 110C-4 WNr. 2273., , , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.27, , Fl.Pl. Bergen, 15%, H
06-Jul-41, 03.00, Bf 110C-7, 3607, Macke, Fw., , NJG 1, 1., , G9+DH, TD+GI, , Bauchlandung due to Luftkampf. Bf WIA., Bf Uffz. Walter Kaben, 5/6-Jul per Balss., Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, p.23; Höhler, Deutsche Nachtjagd Personalverluste, p.2, FB Caspar Stein, bei Groitrode, 50%, F
22-Jul-41, , Bf 110C-7, 3128, n.n., , Zerst.Sch. 1, , , , , , Undercarriage damage., , , Lfl.3/Deutschland, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle bei Schulen usw., p.371; BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/771, Flzg.-Unfälle bei Schulen und sonstigen Dienstellen, p.25, , Fl.Pl. Neubiberg, 20%, H
25-Jul-41, , Bf 110C-7, 2075, VINKE, Uffz. Heinz, 54, NJG 1, 4., , G9+JM, , , Injured in Notlandung due to engine damage. Bf FSA, killed., Bf Uffz. Gerhard Schlein, RK. 24/25-Jul per Balss., Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, p.26; Höhler, Deutsche Nachtjagd Personalverluste, p.8; Schuurman, Vliegveld Bergen, p.182 photos, Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.29, bei Cocksdorp, Insel Texel (PlQu. 44 88), 80%, F
08-Sep-41, , Bf 110C-7, 2245, n.n., , NJG 3, 3., , , NJ+ZS, , Enemy fire., , , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #4)-Vol.6; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.34, , Fl.Pl. Werneuchen, 55%, F
20-Jan-42, , Bf 110C-7, 3593, Damman, Oblt. Berndt, , NJG 4 (ZG 26), 1., , 3U+PH, , , Crew killed due to midair collision with Bf 110D-3 WNr. 3678., Bf Ofw. Paul Barth, WNr. 3678, '3U+FH' per Ring., VIII.Fl.Korps/Eins.Osten/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #4)-Vol.7; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.50; Ring, ZG 26 loss list, , (Bjeler-Gerbatschewka), 100%, F
26-Feb-42, , Bf 110C-7, 3513, n.n., , NJG 3, II., , , , , Crashed due to F becoming disoriented. Crew FSA., , , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #5)-Vol.8; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.56, , bei Hadersleben, 100%, F
19-Mar-42, , Bf 110C-7, 3635, Kettmann, Ltn. Rolf, , NJG 4 (ZG 26), 1., , 3U+CH, TD+KK, , Crew KIA due to Flak., Bf Uffz. Wilhelm Braun, , VIII.Fl.Korps/Eins.Osten/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #5)-Vol.8; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.59; Ring, ZG 26 loss list, , bei Gshatsk, 100%, F
04-May-42, , Bf 110C-7, 3100, n.n., , NJG 3, II., , , , , Bauchlanding due to icing., , , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol.9; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.69, , Fl.Pl. Schleswig, 65%, F
11-Jun-42, , Bf 110C-7, 2097, n.n., , ZG 2, 4., , , BA+CH, , Flak., , Built Gothaer Waggonfabrik AG in Feb 1940., Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol.9; Mankau/Petrick, Messerschmitt Bf 110, Me 210 & Me 410, p.356, , Charkow, 100%, F
26-Jun-42, , Bf 110C-7, 3637, Jank, Ltn. Wolfgang, , NJG 3, 5., , , TD+KM, , WIA due to Luftkampf with Wellington. Safe landing., , 25/26-Jun per Balss. Grossborn per loss., Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol.9; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, p.53, , Schleswig-Land, b, F
28-Jun-42, , Bf 110C-7, 2095, Hartmann, Oblt. Willi, , ZG 2, 1., gelbe K, 2S+KL, BA+CF, , Crew WIA due to enemy fighters., Bf Gefr. Siegfried Meyer, Built Gothaer Waggonfabrik AG in Feb 1940., Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol.10; Mankau/Petrick, Messerschmitt Bf 110, Me 210 & Me 410, p.356, , (Dogoje), 100%, F
30-Jun-42, , Bf 110C-7, 2891, n.n., , ZG 2, 3., , , , , Flak., , , Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol.10, , Swoboda, 80%, F
08-Jul-42, , Bf 110C-7, 2090, Zarpitzki, Fw. Ernst, , Erg.Zerst.Gr., , , , BA+CA, , Bruchlandung due to pilot error., Bf Gefr. Walter Knauth, Built Gothaer Waggonfabrik AG in Feb 1940., Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Polen, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol.10; Mankau/Petrick, Messerschmitt Bf 110, Me 210 & Me 410, p.356, , Fl.Pl. Deblin, 70%, H
14-Jul-42, , Bf 110C-7, 3592, Meyer, Ltn. Alwin, , ZG 2, 3., , , , , WIA due to Flak., , , Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol.10, , Iwanowka, 80%, F
05-Oct-42, , Bf 110C-7, 2072, Suhre, Uffz. Wilhelm, , NJG 4, 2., , , , , Injured in Bruchlandung due to fuel shortage after Luftkampf., , Bf 110C-4 on 5/6-Oct per Balss., Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #7)-Vol.11; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, p.66; Höhler, Deutsche Nachtjagd Personalverluste, p.91, , bei Attigny, 100%, F
10-Mar-43, , Bf 110C-7, 2891, n.n., , ZG 1, 6., , , , , Enemy fire., , , Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #9)-Vol.15; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.139, , PlQu. 60 37, 50%, F
14-May-43, , Bf 110C-7, 3050, n.n., , NJG 5, 4., , , , , Crashed due to engine trouble., , Combat flight 'F' per Balss., Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #10)-Vol.17; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.141, , Greifswald, 50%, H
25-Jul-43, , Bf 110C-7, 3044, n.n., , NJG 5, 7., , , , , Taxiing accident., , , Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.19, , Fl.Pl. Kolberg, 60%, H
17-Aug-43, , Bf 110C-7, 3645, n.n., , NJG 101, , , , , , Bauchlandung due to enemy fire., , , Nachtjagd, Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.187, , bei München-Riem, 15%, H
08-Sep-43, , Bf 110C-7, 2066, Plitsch, Ltn. Heinz-Günther, , KG 2, 13., , U5+UX, , , Crew injured due to hitting obstruction with left wing after low-level gunnery training. Engine damage. Took off from Villaroche., Bf Uffz. Helmut Walschewski, , FR, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.21; Balke, Der Luftkrieg in Europa, II, p.515, , Fere-Champenoise, 75%, H
06-Nov-43, , Bf 110C-7, 3604, n.n., , NJG 6, 5., , , , , Undercarriage damage., , , Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #12)-Vol.23; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.252, , Fl.Pl. Echterdingen, 20%, H
18-Nov-43, , Bf 110C-7, 2161, Hänsel, Fw. Günter, , NJG 101, 9., , KD+UE, KD+UE, , Crew killed in crash due to F being afflicted by altitude sickness., Bf Gefr. Jaroslaus Karatnicki, Maybe WNr. 2061 per Balss. SKZ fits WNr. 2161., Nachtjagd, Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, p.162, , Olfingen bei Stuttgart, 100%, H
15-Mar-44, , Bf 110C-7, 3561, ./., , NJG 102, , , , , , Bombenwurf., , , Nachtjagd, Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.306, , Fl.Pl. Echterdingen, 80%, F
24-Apr-44, , Bf 110C-7, 1390, Kroßkod, Uffz. Hans, , ZG 101, , , , , , Killed in crash due to pilot error. Bf injured., Bf Uffz. Max Lütz, , Lfl. Reich, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.14, , Ellmessen, 100%, H
28-Apr-44, , Bf 110C-7, 2157, Schütz, Ofw. Hans, , ZG 101, , , , KD+UA, , Crew killed due to midair collision with Bf 110C-4 WNr. 3519., Bf Uffz. Eduard Paulik, , Lfl. Reich, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.18; FB Caspar Stein, , bei Rosenheim, 100%, H
16-Jun-44, , Bf 110C-7, 3641, n.n., , Flzg.Führ.Sch. B 38, , , , TD+KQ, , Bauchlandung due to engine trouble., , , Lfl. Reich, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.106, , bei Marienburg, 80%, H
24-Jul-44, , Bf 110C-7, 3011, ./., , ZG 101, , , , , , Bombenwurf., , , Lfl. 10, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/780, p.132, , Fl.Pl. Laupheim, 40%, F
24-Jul-44, , Bf 110C-7, 3027, ./., , ZG 101, , , , , , Bombenwurf., , , Lfl. 10, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/780, p.132, , Fl.Pl. Laupheim, 40%, F
09-Aug-44, , Bf 110C-7, 3274, ./., , Bal.b.Fa.Bachmann & Blumental Öttingen, , , , DE+MP*, , Tiefangriff., , , Lfl. 10, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/780, p.122, , Fl.Pl. Öttingen, 100%, F

Tony Jones 24th July 2009 14:54

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
Jim P

A few snippets for your list

3505 BB+UG
3561 PB+OQ
2075 TS+AZ
3513 BB+UO
2891 BO+AF
2072 TS+AW
2066 TS+AQ

Tony

Jim P. 25th July 2009 12:33

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
Thanks Tony. The additional information is quite helpful.

Evgeny Velichko 25th July 2009 19:10

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
Thank You all gentlemen for answer!

Evgeny Velichko 11th August 2010 16:58

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
Gents:

Following my research, I was able to determine fates of 4 Bf110C-7 (converted from C-5 at GWF) and 20 Bf110C-7(converted from C-4 at MiAG).

Then, a/c that I was not able to track down:

GWF Bf110C-7 2246 NJ+ZT

MiAG Bf110C-7 3618 TD+GS
MiAG Bf110C-7 3619 TD+GT
MiAG Bf110C-7 3621 TD+GW
MiAG Bf110C-7 3626 TD+KB
MiAG Bf110C-7 3627 TD+KC
MiAG Bf110C-7 3633 TD+KI
MiAG Bf110C-7 3634 TD+KJ
MiAG Bf110C-7 3639 TD+KO
MiAG Bf110C-7 3642 TD+KR
MiAG Bf110C-7 3643 TD+KS
MiAG Bf110C-7 3644 TD+KT
MiAG Bf110C-7 3647 TD+KW
MiAG Bf110C-7 3649 TD+KY
MiAG Bf110C-7 3651 Stkz unknown
MiAG Bf110C-7 3652 Stkz unknown

If someone have any information, I would be very appreciate for it.

RT 29th September 2010 22:36

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
Now a bit less are missing

9 5 43 BM NJG 101 Echterdingen FP FAWS BF110C-4 3652 10
2 4 44 LF Reich NJG 102 Echterdingen FP BA MSTO BF110C-4 3652 10
3 6 43 BM LKD Ost/Süd Barwenkowo Mbrand BF110C-7 3651 25
17 8 43 BM NJG 101 F Riem b, BA F BF110C-7 3645 15
16 6 44 LF Reich FFS B38 Marienburg b, BA MSTO BF110C-7 3641 80
17 8 43 BM NJG 101 Echterdingen FP N MSTO BF110C-2 3641 10
22 1 44 BM NJG 102 H Echterdingen BA MSTO BF110C-4 3641 10
3 5 44 LF Reich I NJG 101 Moosburg b, Expl,luft BF110C-4 3642 100
5 11 40 2 LZA Liegnitz Kirchhellen b, BR verorien, BF110 3633 70
4 8 41 3 Fl,sch,d,Lw,schl,Regensburg Regensburg b, X BF110C-4 3634 100
24 10 41 BM Zerst,sch,1 Wunstorf BR BF110C-4 3626 70
10 7 42 BM Nachtjg,sch,1 Dachau b, A BF110C-4 3623 100
15 3 44 LF Reich NJG 102 Echterdingen FP Bombenw, BF110C-4 3621 100
7 4 42 3 zerst,sch,2 Babenhausen b, Z Luft BF110C-7 2246 95

BF110 3622 ,,, LZA Liegnitz 11 8 40 Braunschw,-Romorantin
BF110 3637 ,,, LZA Liegnitz 3 8 40 Braunschw,-Gablingen
BF110 3641 ,,, LZA Liegnitz 27 9 40 Augsburg-Paderborn
BF110 3654 ,,, LZA Liegnitz 14 9 40 Braunschw,-Gablingen
BF110 3648 TD+KX 9 40 FT-Einflug-Werkflug

Rémi

Evgeny Velichko 30th September 2010 10:03

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
Thank You Remi!

Evgeny Velichko 24th February 2011 14:52

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
Remi, pls correct me if I am wrong. He is what I understood from Your list:

GWF:
Bf110С-7, W. Nr.2246 (Stkz. NJ+ZT) - damaged 95% near Babenhausen on 7.4.42 with 3./Zerst.Sch.2 ?

MIAG:
Bf110С-7,W. Nr.3621 (Stkz. TD+GW) - lost during bomb attack on airfield Echterdingen, with NJG102 on 15.3.44

Bf110С-7,W. Nr.3623 (Stkz. TD+GY, Vbkz. 3M+LH) with 1./ZG2 damaged on 11.9.40.
Same a/c, later with N.J.Sch.1 crashed near Dachau on 10.7.42, lost 100%

Bf110С-7,W. Nr.3626 (Stkz. TD+KB) with Zerst.Sch.1 lost on 24.10.41 near Wunstorf, crahed. 70%

Bf110С-7,W. Nr.3633 (Stkz. TD+KI) -with LZA lost orientation on route Liegnitz-Kirchhellen and crashed? Damaged 70%

Bf110С-7,W. Nr.3634 (Stkz. TD+KJ) - Fl,sch,d,Lw,schl - what regiment is it? Crahed at Regensburg on 4.8.41, what reason?

Bf110С-7,W. Nr.3641 (Stkz. TD+KQ)
17.8.43 with NJG 101 damaged on airfield Echterdingen, 10% (reason?)
22.1.44 with NJG 102 damaged on airfield Echterdingen during bomb attack, 10%
16.6.44 with Flzg.Fuhr.Sch. B38. crashed near Marienburg, damaged 80% and write-off

Bf110С-7,W. Nr.3642 (Stkz. TD+KR) with I NJG 101 crashed and exploded near Moosburg on 3.5.44, lost 100%

Bf110С-7,W. Nr.3645 (Stkz. TD+KU) with NJG 101 damaged during bomb attack at Riem on 17.8.43, 15%

Bf110С-7,W. Nr.3651 (Stkz. TD+??) LuftKdo Ost/Süd, motor fire, 25% damaged, on 3.6.43 at Barwenkowo. What was the regiment?

Bf110С-7, W. Nr.3652 (Stkz. TD+??) - damaged 10%, with NJG 101 near Echterdingen on 9.5.43. What was the reason ?
Same a/c, damaged 10% on 2.4.44 with NJG 102 near Echterdingen - What was the reason ?

Jim P. 25th February 2011 02:26

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
I found another loss reported as a Bf 110C-7 yesterday:
Bf 110C-7, 2157, n.n., , , , Zerst.Sch. 2, , , , , 02-Nov-42, Bruchlandung due to pilot error., , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Deutschland, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/774, Flzg.-Unfälle Flzg.-Unfälle bei Schulen usw., p.6, , Fl.Pl. Neubiberg, 15%, H, , ,

Evgeny Velichko 25th February 2011 09:11

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
THX Jim!
According to Petrick tables, W.Nr.2157 was a Bf110C-5, built in early aug.1940. But probably it was later converted to fighter-bomber, as many C-1/2/4's.

Evgeny Velichko 1st March 2011 10:17

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
Gentlmen:

I wonder, Bf110C-7 was supposed to be JagdBomber, and fitted with ETC500 racks, but most of those 39 aircrafts were delivered to ZG (as clear fighters/zerstorer) and NJG units, not to Erpr.Gr.210! And used without bombracks?

Are there any photos of Bf110 with ventral bombrack with ZG76 or ZG2 or ZG26 during Battle of Britain?

John Vasco 1st March 2011 14:30

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evgeny Velichko (Post 123662)
Are there any photos of Bf110 with ventral bombrack with ZG76 or ZG2 or ZG26 during Battle of Britain?

No.

Evgeny Velichko 2nd March 2011 13:32

Re: Searching a fate of Bf110C-7's.
 
John:

Thx for answer.

So, it seems for me that Bf110C-7's had ability to be equipped with ETC500 (in this way it got enforsed gear/tires and spur/tail wheel to be able to carry 1000kg of bombs), but in fact most of C-7 went to clear fighter/zerstorer role, and were NOT equipped with bombracks during Battle of Britain.

I know only 2 Bf110C-7, wich went to ground-attack Gruppe (Erpr.Gr.210) and got ETC500. All othes - had not.

But after BoB, GeneralStaff ordered to equipp all C and D with bombracks, as E model. At the same time, many C and D got /U3, /U4 and /U6 armor plates. This explain many "Bf110C-7"'s, wich in fact (checking W.Nr.s) are C-1, C-2 and C-4 after repairwoks.

Am I right, John?


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