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Nick Beale 24th May 2018 11:56

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Bavarois (Post 252336)
Regarding # 1109:

The He 111 is from KG 100 with Verbandskennzeichen 6N+KZ, captured at Cagliari/Elmas airdrome (source: ADI(K) Med).

It was damaged 23rd June 1942, shot up over Sidi Barani, with two men wounded from the Lt.Stange crew. At that time it was coded like 6N+KJ (source: Ulf Balke KG 100 chronicle).

Carl


It looks like it's coded 6N+KJ in the photo, too (and W.Nr. 7074).

RudiS 24th May 2018 14:11

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
I did ask the seller for better scans but he never replied so we'll have to do with this one:
a Fw 190, Ju 88 ??+AR and a photo of a pile of wrecks:
https://4imeqg.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/WW2-Pho...19.m1438.l2649

Marc-André Haldimann 24th May 2018 14:34

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Bavarois (Post 252336)
Regarding # 1109:

The He 111 is from KG 100 with Verbandskennzeichen 6N+KZ, captured at Cagliari/Elmas airdrome (source: ADI(K) Med).

It was damaged 23rd June 1942, shot up over Sidi Barani, with two men wounded from the Lt.Stange crew. At that time it was coded like 6N+KJ (source: Ulf Balke KG 100 chronicle).

Carl

Charles,

Thanks for your enlightening informations. And Nick, thank for your confirmation.

Cheers
Marc

Maciej Góralczyk 24th May 2018 14:37

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
The Fw 190 D-9 in the lower left corner is W.Nr. 210239 from 6./JG 26, crash-landed in Wesel area on 9th March 1945.

Rabe Anton 24th May 2018 20:30

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
For Tom W.─

Regarding the Hs 129 + Z Q in 59-586, I have just come to the same conclusion
as yourself based on the Pegg title on the Hs 129. Boy, the data in this Werknummer
range are thin on the ground!

Rabe Anton

Tom Willis 25th May 2018 06:39

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hi Rabe

A little confused with the Hs129 W/Nr batch and the part Stkz ??+ZQ. Can you please elaborate. Thanks
Tom

spektor 25th May 2018 11:07

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 252341)
I did ask the seller for better scans but he never replied so we'll have to do with this one:
a Fw 190, Ju 88 ??+AR and a photo of a pile of wrecks:
https://4imeqg.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/WW2-Pho...19.m1438.l2649

Junkers 88 G-1, W.Nr.712283, 3C+AR, 7.Staffel/NJG 7, lost during a special mission, crashed east of Maastricht, 100% damage
Pilot: (Staffelkapitän?) Uffz. Erich Stifter, bordmechanik Gefr. Johann Blever, radaroperator Obgefr.Werner Lefkes, they all died

Can someone confirm it?

Thanks to all of you. Ľubor.

RudiS 25th May 2018 12:17

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks Maciej & Ľubor.

Album with several photos of He 111 (just showing two here) and a Bf 109:
https://4io5cg.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://4inu5w.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://4ipvww.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/WWII-US...19.m1438.l2649

RodM 25th May 2018 14:16

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spektor (Post 252386)
Junkers 88 G-1, W.Nr.712283, 3C+AR, 7.Staffel/NJG 7, lost during a special mission, crashed east of Maastricht, 100% damage
Pilot: (Staffelkapitän?) Uffz. Erich Stifter, bordmechanik Gefr. Johann Blever, radaroperator Obgefr.Werner Lefkes, they all died

Can someone confirm it?

Thanks to all of you. Ľubor.


Ju88G-1 W.Nr. 712283 (3C+AR) of III./NJG4 (7. Staffel) crashed two kilometres N/NNW of Wesel at approx. 23.55 hrs on the night of 24-25 March 1945 during a Nachtschlacht mission against the Allied bridgehead over the Rhine.


FF: Lt. Mittendorf OR von Mylius (not a Staffelkapitän)
Bf: Uffz. Erich Stifter
Bm: Gefr. Johann Blever
Bs: Ogefr. Werner Lefkes + (b. 07/09/1924 in Viersen, buried in unknown grave at the Kriegsgräberstätte in Wesel-Diersfordt (D))

By all accounts, one man died in the crash, two wounded men were shot, and one man was taken prisoner. Ogefr. Lefkes is the only confirmed death so far, but two bodies of the crew are visible in photos taken the day after the crash, and other photos from a later time show the body of the pilot after recovery from the cockpit (which was apparently cut open to get the body out).

Cheers

Rod

Marc-André Haldimann 25th May 2018 14:49

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 252398)

Thanks as ever, RudiS, for your haul.

A small precision: what is called a Bf 109 is actually the starboard engine fo a destroyed He 111 H.

Cheers
Marc


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