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Alex Smart 8th February 2020 05:06

23rd Fighter Group losses
 
Hello,
Here is what I think is the full MACR list for the 23rd Fighter Group in WW2.
Additional losses are most welcome as are corrections.
23rd Fighter Group Losses & MACR's

1943
43/04/08 - P40K - 42-46248 - 74FS - 1Lt. Mitchell, D, M. - O-426410 - Fatal Accident.
43/07/26 - P40K - 42-9914 - 74FS - 2Lt. LEE, H, L. Chinese Air Force - 461.
43/08/05 - P38G - 42-12336(?) - 449FS - 2Lt. BARRETT, R. J - O-732126 - 306.
43/08/20 - P40K - 42-9752 - 74FS - 2Lt. MAO, Y.K. Chinese Air Force- 460
43/08/27 - P40 - ??-????? - 76FS - Capt. KRIPPNER, H, I - O-. - 16263.
43/10/01 - P40K - 42-45906 - 75FS - 2Lt. CHEN, P.C. Chinese Air Force - 758.
43/10/01 - P40K - 42-46250 - 75FS - 1Lt. WOOD, H, I. - O-789035 - 759.
43/12/01 - P51A - 43-6277 - 76FS - 1Lt. COLBERT, R, T. - O-736998 - 12260.
43/12/04 - P40N - 42-104436 - 74FS - Capt. BELL, P, N. - O-431239 - 11970.
43/12/29 - P40 - 43-6289 - 76FS - 1Lt. BOYLAN, B, G - O- 661272 - 16389

1944
44/01/18 - P40K - 42-106283 - 74FS - 1Lt. SMITH, L, W - O-664267 - 4798.(?).
44/01/18 - P40K - 42-106270 - 74FS - Capt. VIDOVICH, H. S - O-661405 - 4797.
44/03/18 - P40N - 42-105155 - 75FS - 1Lt. BLANCO, J, A - O-736975 - 4114.
44/05/06 - P51B - 43-12394 - 76FS - 1Lt. BENEDA, G, E - O-736949 - 11971.
44/05/09 - P40N-15 - ??-?????? - 74FS - 1Lt. SMITH, L, W - O-664267 - 4798 (?).
44/05/26 - P40N - 42-105002 - 75FS - 1Lt. SMEDLEY, W, R - O-801910 - 5809.
44/06/15 - P40N - 42-105000 - 74S - Maj. MELLOAN, B, E - O-398666 - 6086.
44/06/26 - P40N - 42-105276 - 74FS - 1Lt. ARMSTRONG, F, H - O-801319 - 11969.
44/06/26 - P40N - 42-104936 - 74FS - 2Lt. OVEREND, D, K - O-694260 - 16261.
44/06/28 - P40N - 43-23811- 118TRS - 2Lt. SWAIM, T, S - O-689912 - 6451.
44/06/29 - P40N - 42-104941 - 75FS - 1Lt. VURGAROPULOS, J, C - O-799283 - 16397.
44/07/05 - P40N - 43-24158 - 118TRS - 2Lt. DENTON, G, W - O-689749 - 6449.
44/07/06 - P40N - 42-105009 - 74FS - 2Lt. GARRETT, C, D - O-818564 - 6471.
44/07/23 - P40N - 42-104923 - 74FS - 1Lt. MULLINEAUX, R, (NMI) - O801360 - 6872.
44/07/26 - P40N - 43-24181 - 74FS - 1Lt. BATES, O, R - O-797843 - 7214.
44/07/29 - P40N - 43-24184 - 75FS - 1Lt. ELKER, O, H - O-802273 - 7116.
44/08/06 - P40N - 43-23806 - 118TRS - Capt. GEE, R, E - O-439703 - 7263.
44/08/06 - P40N - 43-24149 - 118TRS - 1Lt. SWANSON, E, W - O-689913 - 7264.
44/08/06 - P40N - 43-24164 - 118TRS - 1Lt. WATTS, O, S - O-532315 - 7265
44/08/06 - P40N - 42-105901 - 118TRS - 1Lt. O'BRIEN, R, C - O-798342 - 7266.
44/08/06 - P51B - 43-6878 - 76FS - 2Lt. HOLCOMB, L, M - O-820273 - 7267.
44/08/10 - P40N - 43-23400 - 75FS - Maj. QUIGLEY, D, L - O-432207 - 7349.
44/08/13 - P40N - 42-106324 - 74FS - 1Lt. BUTLER, V, A - O-799125 - 7351.
44/08/14 - P40N - 43-24155 - 118TRS - 1Lt. STUTZMAN, R, E - O-686870 - 7348.
44/08/16 - P40K - 42-9755 - 118TRS - 2Lt. SUTLIFF, H, S - O-821803 - 7590.
44/08/16 - P40N - 42-105273 - 74FS - 1Lt. BALDWIN, B, C - O-807217 - 7592.
44/08/17 - P40N - 42-104921 - 75FS - 1Lt. FOLMAR, J, F - O-674296 - 7594.
44/08/19 - P40N - 42-106264 - 75FS - 2Lt. SMITH, W, M - O-692217 - 7855.
44/08/26 - P40N - 43-23622 - 74FS - 2Lt. ANGEL Jr, T, B - O-683667 - 8019.
44/08/29 - P40N - 42-106318 - 74FS - 1Lt. BENNETT, G, F - O-797926 - 8017.
44/08/31 - P40K - 42-46261 - 118TRS - 2Lt. CLAIBORNE, E, S - O-821840 - 8021.
44/09/04 - P40 - 43-22800 - 118TRS - 2Lt. THOMAS, J, E - O-812174 - 8115.
44/09/05 - P40N - 43-23259 - 75FS - 2Lt. BEAVEN, G, C - O-668391 - 8720.
44/09/19 - P40N - 43-23661 -'74FS - 2Lt. FISCHHABER, G, F - O-817914 - 8725.
44/09/21 - P40N - 43-23343 - 75FS - 2Lt. BOSSERMAN, J, A - O-705490 - 9451.
44/09/21 - P40N - 43-22837 - 75FS - 1Lt. ROBERTS, R, A - O-701171 - 9727.
44/10/04 - P51B - 43-12395 - 76FS - 1Lt. LEISSES, H, (NMI) - O-754151 - 9608.
44/10/04 - P51B - 42-106966 - 76FS - 1Lt. SHULL, R, B - O-701185 - 9609.
44/10/05 - P51C - 42-103628 - 118TRS - 2Lt. GOCKE, J, E - O-701752 - 9299.
44/10/05 - P40N - 42-106206 - 76FS - 1Lt. SMITH, E, E - O-812162 - 9610.
44/10/06 - P40N - 43-22786 - 2Lt. UPCHURCH, R, H - O-708349 - 9726.
44/10/15 - P51B - 43-7089 - 76 FS - 2Lt. EISENMAN, J, F - O-705065 - 9611.
44/10/21 - P40N - 43-23464 - 76FS - 2Lt. BELL, E, E - O-705527 - 9690.
44/10/21 - P40N - 42-104610 - 76FS - 2Lt. CALKINS, H, C - O-745290 - 11984.
44/10/27 - P40N - 42-104650 - 76FS - 2Lt. MOORE, H, C - O-711850 - 9722.
44/10/28 - P51C - 43-24986 - 74FS - 2Lt. BOWMAN, E, R - O-686627 - 9724.
44/10/28 - P51C - 42-103825 - HQ - 2Lt. CARNER, R, W - O-707658 - 9725.
44/10/28 - P51B - 43-7116 - 76FS - Maj. FLEMING, R, E - O-420905 - 10058.
44/10/29 - P40N - 43-22773 - 75FS - F/O. SCHWARTZ, J, F - T-123600 - 10048.
44/10/30 - P40N - 43-23637 - 76FS - 2Lt. POLKARPO, F, F - O-692916 - 10067.
44/10/30 - P40N - 43-23616 - 1Lt. NEWSOME, A,J - O-820312 - 10072.
44/10/30 - P40N - 42-104618 - 76FS - 2Lt. TORANGO, R, P - O-702865 - 10073.
44/11/07 - P51B - 43-12140 - 76FS - 1Lt. ROBBINS, H, V - O-691590 - 10068.
44/11/07 - P51C - 43-24962 - 74FS - 1Lt. ANGEL, T, B - O-684667 - 10076.
44/11/07 - P40N - 43-22779 - 118TRS - 2Lt. WHITE, H, N - O-710801 - 10092.
44/11/07 - P51C - 42-103421 - 118TRS - 1Lt. MIEHE, H, E - O-797874 - 10093.
44/11/10 - P51B - 42-106531 - 75FS - Capt. BROWN, J - O-799120 - 11694.
44/11/11 - P51C - 43-24947 - 75FS - 2Lt. TAYLOR, J, M - O-817130 - 10078.
44/11/11 - P51C - 44-10805 - 75FS - 2Lt. RILEY, W, B - O-701170 - 10046.
44/11/11 - P51C - 43-25212 - 75FS - 2Lt. GADBERRY, A, J - O-706583 - 10060.
44/11/11/- P51C - 43-25229 - 75FS - 1Lt. MILLER, R, P - O-693226 - 10077.
44/11/12 - P51 - 44-10810 - 74FS - 1Lt. FIRESTONE, N, S - O-435955 - 10061.
44/11/20 - P51C - 42-103610 - 118TRS - Capt. BOWEN, S, R - O-789869 - 10089.
44/11/23 - P51C - 43-25176 - 76FS - 2Lt. HOUCK, J, P - O-756588 - 10062.
44/11/25 - P51C - 44-10814 - 76FS - 1Lt. RAYMOND, R, J - O-812142 - 10090.
44/11/25 - P51C - 43-25219 - 74FS - 1Lt. EVANS, J, F - O-694211 - 10097.
44/12/03 - P51C - 44-10794 - 74FS - 1Lt. WATSON, M, B - O-460014 - 10368.
44/12/08 - P51C - 44-10815 - 74FS - 1Lt. McGILL, F, J - O-802053 - 10624.
44/12/08 - P51C - 43-25197 - 75FS - Capt. DANCE, S, A - O-378953 - 10628.
44/12/18 - P51C - 44-10807 - 74 FS - 1Lt. COUSINS, W, D - O-802257 - 10736.
44/12/18 - P51B - 42-106507 - 74FS - 1Lt. HANOVER, R, B - O-821702 - 10737.
44/12/18 - P51C - 43-25220 - 74FS - 1Lt. WHEELER, J, W - O-687413 - 10738.
44/12/20 - P51C - 43-25186 - 118TRS - 1Lt. COVEY, (NMI) - O-798256 - 10739
44/12/21 - P51C - 43-25182 - 74FS - 1Lt. CHRISMAN, J, F - O-694121 - 10741.
44/12/22 - P51C - 43-24963 - 74FS - 2Lt. FITZGERALD, R, R -- O-754091 - 10740.
44/12/22 - P51C - 43-24950 - 118TRS - 1Lt. KELLER, B, S - O-682655 - 10955.
44/12/23 - P51C - 44-11117 - 118TRS - 2Lt. BOERNKE, R, E - O-714365 - 10966.
44/12/24 - P51C - 43-24984 - 118TRS - 2Lt. PARNELL, M, L - O-686010 - 10967.
44/12/24 - P51C - 43-25237 - 118TRS - 1Lt. KETHLEY, B, L - O-446451 - 16260.
44/12/25 - P51C - 44-11058 - 74FS - Capt. REIS, P, J - O-660201 - 10960.
44/12/26 - P51C - 43-24938 - 118TRS - 2Lt. CHANCELLOR, E, L - O-711946 - 10963.
44/12/27 - P51C - 44-10787 - 74FS - Capt. BROWN, R, E - O-421626 - 10964.
44/12/27 - P51C - 43-25246 - 74FS - 1Lt. SWIM, D, H - O-818455 - 10965.

1945
45/01/15 - P51C - 43-24972 - 118TRS - 2Lt. THEOBALD, G, C - O-697602 - 11633.
45/01/15 - P51D - 44-11103 - 118TRS - Maj. HOUCK, D, L - O-546117 - 11635.
45/01/15 - P51C - 44-11120 - 118TRS - 1Lt. PALMER, F, S - O-728020 - 11636.
45/01/15 - P51B - 43-6751 - 118TRS - 2Lt. MITCHELL, D, J - O-710150 - 11637.
45/01/16 - P51B - 43-7055 - 118TRS - 1Lt. EGAN, J, F - O-517845 - 11634.
45/01/20 - P51C - 43-25185 - 118TRS - 2Lt. GEYER, G, J - O-701750 - 11775.
45/01/20 - P51C - 43-25228 - 74FS - F/O. SEAGO, B, G - T-124815 - 11880.
45/01/20 - P51C - 44-10813 - 118TRS - 2Lt. TOLLETT, H, B - O-697239 - 11882.
45/01/25 - L-5 - 42-98442 - 118TRS - Capt. CARPENTER, J, W - O-671635 & 1Lt. BRAUDE, B, B - O-1003679(passenger) - 18889.
45/02/26 - P51K - 44-11426 - 76FS - 2Lt. EDWARDS, D, E - O-821677 - 12759.
45/02/27 - P51D - 44-11291 - 76FS - 2Lt. BREINGAN, C, A - O-801751 - 12785.
45/02/27 - P51K - 44-11446 - 76FS - 2Lt. BAIRD, R, T, W - O-809081 - 12786.
45/02/27 - P51K - 44-11448 - 76FS - Capt. MASSEY, R, L - O-432710 - 12787.
45/03/28 - P51C - 43-24977 - 74FS - 2Lt. CHMIELEWSKI, S,J -O-807169 - 13586.
45/03/28 - P51C - 44-11110 - 74FS - 2Lt. SIMS, A, H - O-826536 - 13587.
45/03/28 - P51C - 44-11055 - 74FS - Maj. CHAPMAN, P, G - O-389284 - 13591.
45/03/29 - P51C - 44-11064 - 74FS - 2Lt. McMASTER, R, W - O-824528 - 13585.
45/03/30 - P51D - 44-11268 - 75FS - 2Lt. RILEY, W, B - O-701170 - 13589.
45/04/03 - P51D - 44-11299 - 75FS - Maj. SLOCUMB, C, B - O-427775 - 13691.
45/04/03 - P51D -:44-11312 - 75FS - Capt. PARHAM, F, F - O-450540 - 13767.
45/04/03 - P51D - 44-11284 - 76FS - Capt. BUTLER, W, S - O-431383 - 13769.
45/06/03 - P51D - 44-11313 - 76FS - Lt Col. TEETER, L,V - O-406341 - 14568.
45/06/11 - P51K - 44-11790 - 76FS - Capt. LYEN, B, S - O-796167 - 14737.
45/06/19 - P51K - 44-11894 - 76FS - 1Lt. LAWMAN, E, H - O-812834 - 14660
45/06/20 - P51C - 43-25195 - 76FS - 1Lt. BAIRD, R,T,W - O-809081 - 14663.
45/06/20 - P51C - 43-25201 - 76FS - 1Lt. STEINHARDT, H - O-804061 - 14664.
45/06/21 - P51C - 43-25184 - 76FS - 1Lt. QUIMBY, W, H - O-813225 - 14671.
45/07/02 - P51D - 44-11276 - 76FS - Capt. GILMORE, B, H - O-421593 - 14702.
45/07/06 - P51K - 44-11862 - 76FS - 1Lt. TAPP, C, J - O-675729 - 14724.
45/07/07 - F6D - 44-14867 - 75FS - Capt. BERVEN, G, C - O-668391 - 8720.
45/09/27 - P51K - 44-12741 - 74FS - F/O. SIMMONS, G, G - T-64070 - 14962.
45/10/07 - P51K - 44-12728 - 74FS - 1Lt. CUNNINGHAM, W, M - O-829946 - 14956.

Alex

Frank Olynyk 8th February 2020 07:13

Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
 
Howard L Krippner, Jr O-426568 in 42-9866 according to my copy of the DPMO loss list.

Add Capt. John Frederick Hampshire, O-398789, DoW, aerial combat, May 2, 1943 in P-40K (serial not established, but possibly P-40K-1 42-45732 #161) (13 victory ace)

Probably more, but I haven't gone through their records.

Enjoy!

Frank.

KM1957 8th February 2020 15:25

Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
 
John A. Oparowski, MACR 14773. 74 FS MIA July 18, 1945 in 43-24960.

Kent

KM1957 8th February 2020 15:30

Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
 
Lt. Gordon C. Berven, 75 FS July 7, 1945, MACR 14717. F-6D 44-14867 "Skylark", returned to duty. Carl Molesworth has him in 74 FS July 17 and KIA but MACR documents say 75 FS and he was later a Captain.

Kent

Franek Grabowski 8th February 2020 16:02

Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
 
I do not think the list is complete, though it could be that some MACRs were not compiled. It is quite a while since I have researched 23rd FG, but I recall I could not locate information on anumber of 1943 losses.

Frank Olynyk 8th February 2020 18:53

Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
 
This one sort of sticks out. The MACR number for the Jan 25, 1945 loss of an L-5 cannot be correct. The highest MACR number is 16607. Found it on Fold3. The file folder (first image) has 18889 written on it, but the MACR form itself is stamped 11889.

Franek,
The MACR system officially started on July 1, 1943. Occasionally you will find MACRs for events before then, but they were prepared later (usually a year or more). In addition, any deaths that occurred where the body was recovered (almost) immediately will not have a MACR, because there was no *Missing* Air Crew man. This would be covered in a Battle Casualty report, and I have never found a source for these, unless a copy was retained in the squadron or group records for the mission.

Enjoy!

Frank.

Alex Smart 8th February 2020 20:48

Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
 
Hello all,
Thank you for the additional info and comments, most welcome.
As for MACR 18889.
Page one has "18889" but page two has "11889"
But to access I had to type in 18889,

https://catalog.archives.gov/search?...orNaIds=305256

The highest macr is as Frank says 16707, so ?
Thanks to all, am looking forward to more additional info as we go forward
Alex

edwest2 8th February 2020 21:05

Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
 
Hello Alex,


Do you have this book?


https://www.amazon.com/23rd-Fighter-.../dp/1846034213


Best,
Ed

KM1957 8th February 2020 21:25

Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
 
John W. Van Voorhis, 76 FS MACR 14901 September 5, 1945 in 44-14883 "Frontella"

Franek Grabowski 8th February 2020 21:54

Re: 23rd Fighter Group losses
 
Frank
It is quite a few years since I have researched the unit, but I seem to recall some cases qualifying for MACR but where no MACR could have been located. This for the period covered by MACR.
I am well aware of desperate state of affairs in regard of the unit's records, though some gems appear periodically. They also have had a nice informal diary of the unit, or was it just only 75th? In general, however, it is a forgotten unit, despite a very interesting history.

Ed
I am not sure if the book goes down the detail discussed here.


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