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Lucass 30th January 2018 19:30

Spitfire MkIA from 610th Sqn. RAF
 
Who could be a pilot of Spitfire Mk.Ia DW-O with serial L1043 that was used by 610th Sqn. RAF during the period of July of 1940 ??

Alex Smart 31st January 2018 02:16

Re: Spitfire MkIA from 610th Sqn. RAF
 
L1043 Ia 258 EA MIII
FF 3-7-39
19MU 7-7-39
610S 'DW-O' 6-12-39
266S 18-6-40
7OTU 9-9-40
57OTU FAC2 24-9-40 Hit tree on approach Hawarden 12-8-41
SOC 18-8-41

Alex Smart 31st January 2018 05:15

Re: Spitfire MkIA from 610th Sqn. RAF
 
"Aces High" has Ellis, 610 Sqn - 24th July '40 - claim for an e/a in a/c "O", serial number R6595.
So what became of "O", L1043 at this time ? Was she still "O" or did she carry another a/c in Sqdn letter ?

Lucass 31st January 2018 10:54

Re: Spitfire MkIA from 610th Sqn. RAF
 
That there were two "DW-O" Spitfires with different serials at the same time??

Stig Jarlevik 31st January 2018 11:55

Re: Spitfire MkIA from 610th Sqn. RAF
 
Alex

As per your own table, L1043 was with 266 Sq on 24.7.1940 when R6595 was DW-O with 610 Sq.
So if your table is correct then L1043 cannot have been with 610 Sq in July as per Lucass original request.

Cheers
Stig

Alex Smart 1st February 2018 01:41

Re: Spitfire MkIA from 610th Sqn. RAF
 
Hello Stig,
Well spotted, I overlooked the date disconnect.

However there is also a ? on R6595, see the Spitfire database production list, there is no mention of 610 Sqn.

"R6595 Ia 679 EA MIII FF 7-5-40 8MU 9-5-40 PDU 28-5-40 VAEA 4-6-40 PDU 28-7-40 Damaged by Bf109 over Folkestone and crashed on approach Hawkinge 26-8-40".

Also it is not listed in the 610 Squadron list either ?

Alex

Stig Jarlevik 1st February 2018 17:51

Re: Spitfire MkIA from 610th Sqn. RAF
 
Well Alex

Most of my sources have R6595 assigned to 610 Sq (Halley/Air Britain R1000-R9999 booklet and Franks RAF Fighter Command Losses).

One source which does not is Morgan/Shacklady Spitfire The History.
As far as I understand the internet Spitfire site is mostly a copy of their book, probably also updated with the second version of said book (I only have the first)

In the past I have found that Morgan/Shacklady differs from Halley at some points, possibly because the record cards are hard to read. I also find both the Spitfire site and Spitfire the History hard to read due to the enourmous amount of short forms/abbreviations.

BTW what is actually VAEA (Morgan/Shacklady says VEA in their book)??
No explanation in the book, since only VA is listed and stands for Vickers-Armstrong.

Sorry to say I don't know what you mean with 610 Sq list, so I cannot comment that....

Cheers
Stig

Alex Smart 3rd February 2018 04:03

Re: Spitfire MkIA from 610th Sqn. RAF
 
Hello Stig,


, if I remember correctly ( other will correct me I'm sure if I am wrong) :)

PDU
Photographic Development Unit.

VAEA

Vickers Armstrong Eastleigh Airadrome.

Alex

Stig Jarlevik 3rd February 2018 11:23

Re: Spitfire MkIA from 610th Sqn. RAF
 
Thanks Alex

Yes PDU is a well known abbreviation.

Thanks also for the added info regarding what EA stands for. I suspected it could be something added to Vickers Armstrong, but had nothing to show for my thoughts...:o

Well, since I don't believe Jim Halley took 610 Sq out of a Top Hat I am still rather convinced 610 Sq used the aircraft. Perhaps it was so new and lost almost immediately after delivery, that the ORB never recorded it?

Cheers
Stig

Crimea River 4th February 2018 06:07

Re: Spitfire MkIA from 610th Sqn. RAF
 
I have P/O Frank Kinnersley Webster involved in the crash of R6595.

http://www.bbm.org.uk/airmen/WebsterFK.htm


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