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Mike H 2nd February 2015 07:58

Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".
 
Hi,

can anyone tell me if the book mentions Me410 intruders of KG51 operating over the UK during April 1944. In particular any information or photos of Lt Wolfgang Wenning or Fw Gustav Delp?

Regards,
Mike H

mharrison4@ntlworld.com

Nick Beale 2nd February 2015 11:25

Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".
 
Unless the text has been expanded since the Ian Allan version of the 1970's then no, it wouldn't have much to say about intruder operations, nor about III./KG 51's operations on the Fw 190 from June to November 1944.

Simon Parry's "Intruders Over Britain" may be of more help to you though.

egbert 2nd February 2015 11:53

Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".
 
Dierich's book mentions on pages 222 and 223 the missions to the UK with ME410 from I./51. Stationed in St Andree they flew regular missions to UK. A more detailed report dates March 24. The squadron re-located to Germany in June 44. No mentions of the said personnel

egbert 2nd February 2015 12:00

Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".
 
page 286:
Lt Wolfgang Wenning killed 27.4.44 in England, 6.Staffel
That's all, no more

Nick Beale 2nd February 2015 12:12

Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by egbert (Post 195737)
Dierich's book mentions ... The squadron re-located to Germany in June 44. No mentions of the said personnel

And even that isn't really correct, II./KG 51 was in France flying Me 410 operations at night throughout the Normandy campaign against road junctions, Allied airstrips etc.

egbert 2nd February 2015 12:39

Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 195739)
And even that isn't really correct, II./KG 51 was in France flying Me 410 operations at night throughout the Normandy campaign against road junctions, Allied airstrips etc.

Sorry when I mislead you.
I am quoting from the book. If you do not trust the authors or these kind of informations, please do not ask for look-ups.

Nick Beale 2nd February 2015 13:27

Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by egbert (Post 195742)
I am quoting from the book. If you do not trust the authors or these kind of informations, please do not ask for look-ups.

And I was simply pointing out that this 40 year-old book (if it has not been updated by Schiffer) contained a number of inaccuracies. I was not asking anyone to look up anything.

egbert 2nd February 2015 13:37

Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".
 
I do not know the Schiffer book. I am refering to the book quoted as in post#3
Wolfgang Dierich
Kampfgeschwader 51 "Edelweiß"
Eine Chronik aus Dokumenten und Berichten 1937-1945
Motorbuch Verlag 1973

Nick Beale 2nd February 2015 14:32

Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by egbert (Post 195745)
I do not know the Schiffer book. I am refering to the book quoted as in post#3: Wolfgang Dierich, Kampfgeschwader 51 "Edelweiß"
Eine Chronik aus Dokumenten und Berichten 1937-1945
Motorbuch Verlag 1973

The book published by Schiffer was the subject of the original post and looks as if it may be a reprint (with more photos) of Dierich's 1973 original (the English translation of which appeared in 1975).

egbert 2nd February 2015 14:42

Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".
 
As I do not know the Schiffer published book on KG 51and understanding it is an enhanced version of the Motorbuch publishers would you/somebody with access please have a look at this thread and check for ANY more information in the updated English language version ?
I do not want to hijack this thread so possible answers please on the respective thread here


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