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Mike Dobrzelecki 4th February 2005 17:17

Luftwaffe Losses - Specific days Battle of Britain
 
I am looking for specific information - photos, colors, markings, serial numbers, pilot's names for potential claimed kills over Luftwaffe aircraft during the Battle of Britain (suggested links to other posting sites for this request also sought) as follows:

8 August 1940 Bf-110c V/LG1 near Wyspy Wight ?

11 August 1940 Ju-88A-1 KG-51 near Ventnor ?

6 September 1940 Bf-109E-1 - 7/JG26 (wk nr 3877?)- Crashed into Channel,Bf-109E-4 -5/JG27 marking 6+ (wk nr 2762 ?) carshed at Bank farm Tudele, Bf-109E-4 - 3/JG53 (wk nr.1216 ?), Bf-109E-4 II/1G 53 ( wk nr 3751?) -all near Seven Oaks ?

7 September 1940 Do-17Z Stab/KG2 coded A5+CA (wk nr 2674?),
D0-17Z 4/KG 2, coded U5+FM (wk nr 2830?), do-17Z 5/KG3 coded 5K+FN (wk nr 2840?) & Bf-109 - no info - near Essex ?

15 September 1940 Do-17Z 8/KG2, coded U5+FS (wk nr 2549?),Do-17Z U5+GS,(wk nr4245?) near Gravesend ?

26 Septemebr 1940 He-111H - 2/KG 55 coded G1+KG (wk nr 5314?) downed over Portsmouth ? He-111P I/KG 55 coded G1+BL (wk nr.5369?)

27 September 1940 Bf-110c - 15/LG 1 coded L11+GL (wk nr 3849?) near Horsham Hailsham, Ju-88A - 5 KG 77 coded 3Z+DN (wk nr 4117?) either in or near the Channel or near London

30 September 1940 Bf-109E-1 II/JG 53 - (wk nr 2693?) either in or near the Channel and BF-109E 7/G54, coded 4+ (wk nr 6050) near Boxhill, Do-17Z KG 3, Bf-109E-4 - Stab/JG26 (wk nr.5818?)near Roundhurts Northchapel, Bf-109E-4 - 5/JG2 (wk nr 4861?)near Sydling St.Nicholas

Mike Dobrzelecki

MikiBzh 4th February 2005 17:35

Hello,

*****7/9/40*****

*** 2674 / Only have a name - Uffz Andreas Klausmann (BM) - 10%- Spitfire Sq41

*** 2830 100 % - FF Uffz Paul Christoph / BO Albert Greiner / BF Günther Treuer / BS Fritz Pilz - all died

*** Third lost this day, don't know the Wknr - BM Uffz Werner Haufe - U5+T ?

*****15/9/40*****

*** 2549 U5+FS - 100 % / FF Uffz Günter Flämig / BO Fw Adolf Hirsh / BF Gefr clemens Sandmann / Fw Friedrish simon (died) / Hurricane Sq 242 and 253

*** 4245 U5+GS -100% / FF Hptm Hubertus Lessmann / BO Oblt Ingo Hollweck-Weithmann (died) / BF Uffz Norbert Schweighardt / BM Ufz Ernst Lindemeier / Hurricane Sq 242 and 253

All seems to fall in channel...

Don't have other unit apart KG2.

Mike Dobrzelecki 4th February 2005 17:41

BOB Luft losses
 
Thanks for quick reply

Horrido! 5th February 2005 14:47

Isn't most of this info easily available in Francis K Mason's Battle Over Britain?

Norbert Schuchbauer 5th February 2005 17:58

An even better source is the Blitz Then and Now Volumes I through III.
It has all the info you are looking for.

Norbert

Tomislav Haramincic 5th February 2005 22:09

Hello Mike,

Here is what I have in regard the mentioned Werk numbers and loss dates (sorry only Bf109s):

06.09.40.

WNr.3877 E-1 7./JG26 Gefr. Peter Holzapfel (MIA), combat with Spitfire, area Kenley - 100%
WNr.2762 E-4 KF+SV 5./JG27 Fw. Erich Braun (POW), combat with fighters - crashed, parashuted, over Tonbridge - 100% black 6+−
WNr.1216 E-4 (E-3) 7./JG53 Oblt. Hans Riegel (Stkp) (MIA), combat with Spitfire, area Tilbury - 100%
WNr.3751 E-4 CI+EQ 4./JG53 Oblt. Günther Schulze-Blanck (Stkp) (WIA), aircombat - cockpithit, east of Tonbridge - 30%


07.09.40. - some losses that might fit

WNr.3909 E-4 (E-1) 1./JG2 Oblt. Adolf von Götz (POW), engine trouble - emergency landing, near St.Radegund's Abby - 100%
WNr.4840 or WNr.6342 E-1 1./JG51 Uffz. Heinz zur Lage (POW), aircombat - crashed, parashuted, SE of London - 100% white 7+
WNr.3320 E-4 (E-1) 5./JG2 Uffz. Willi Melchert (POW), combat with Spitfire - crashed, near Folkestone - 100% black 6+−
WNr.735 E-4(E-3) 6./JG26 Uffz. Ernst Braun (POW), combat over London - crashed, near Dover - 100%
WNr.5091 E-3 3./JG51 Gefr. Heinrich Werner (POW), aircombat - crashed, parashuted, SE of London - 100% yellow 9+
WNr.5249 E-4(E-3) Stab III./JG3 Oblt. Leonhard Göttmann (KIA), aircombat - crashed, in the Themse estuary - 100%
WNr.4097 E-4 9./JG51 Uffz. Kurt Koch (POW), aircombat - crashed, parashuted, SE London - 100% yellow 11+
WNr.5385 E-4 KB+JC 4./JG26 Oblt. Hans Krug (Stkp) (POW), aircombat - emergency landing, near Pluckley - 100% white 12+−
WNr.5390 E-4 1./JG27 Lt. Günther Genske (POW), combat with fighters over London - crashed, parashuted (wounded), West Ham - 100%
WNr.5811 E-4/B 1./JG77 Obfw. Gotthard Goltzsche (POW), aircombat south of London - crashed, north of Tenterden - 100% white 11+


30.09.40.

no data for WNr.2693, obviously an error because 2693 should have been a D-1! I guess this is the one you're looking for
WNr.6239 E-1 5./JG53 Uffz. Josef Wurmheller, aircombat - crashed, into the Sea - 100%

WNr.6050 E-1 7./JG54 Uffz. Fritz Marcks (POW), aircombat - emergency landing, bei Bexhill - 100% white 4+
WNr.5818 E-4/N(E-4/B) Stab/JG26 Hptm. Walter Kinzle (WIA) (POW), combat with Hurricane - crashed, parashuted, near North Chapel - 100%
WNr.4861 E-4 5./JG2 Uffz. Alois Dollinger (KIA), combat with Spitfire in the area of Portland - crashed, parashuted, near Sprakefield - 100%


I Hope this helps you.
BTW, from which source is your (crash?) location data?

best regards,
Tomislav


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