B17 Identification needed
Hi,
A real needle in a haystack here. at 16:20 hours on January 10th 1945 a B17 '311' flown by 2nd Lt Burnley made an emergency landed at RAF Chedburgh. Can anyone I.D this crew and group. A real stinker I know. TIA Steve |
Re: B17 Identification needed
Hello Steve,
Hope this may be of use ? 42-3311 - Never left the USA. 42-5311 - Never left the USA 42-30311 - MACR 681 - 17/08/1943. 42-31311 - Never left the USA. 42-97311 - "Shoo Shoo Baby"/"Silver Fox" - 398;303 - "GN-O";457 Bomber Groups. 43-38311 - 493BG/493BS "N", MIA 30/03/1945, MACR 13553. 43-39311 - 8AF 20/02/1945, salvaged 9AAF, Germany 10/05/1946. 44-6311 - Assigned 8AF 19/07/1944. 44-8311 - 91BG - "DF-P" "Terry's Tiger". 44-83311 - 15AF 21/02/1945. Don't think I missed any out ? Alex |
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Alex, For what it is worth I come up with the same final six as the first 4 seem to be out.
44-8311 was in the 91st BG and was salvaged 11/12/44. If we also eliminate 44-83311 (since in the 15th AF) that cuts it down to 4 possibles that end in 311. Eliminating 43-39311 since it appears to have arrived too late, we are left with just 3. |
Re: B17 Identification needed
Gents,
Grateful thanks, so that leaves: 42-97311 - "Shoo Shoo Baby"/"Silver Fox" - 398;303 - "GN-O";457 Bomber Groups. 43-38311 - 493BG/493BS "N", MIA 30/03/1945, MACR 13553. 44-6311 - Assigned 8AF 19/07/1944. I have been on the 457 and 493 Bomb Group Association while both sites are very detailed, neither record a 2nd Lt Burnely or Burne. I will keep trying however. Any idea what group 44-6311 served with? Kind regards Steve |
Re: B17 Identification needed
Hello Rolland,
:) I agree 44-8311 accident in France 26/11/44. 44-83311 to 15 AAF. 43-39311 to 8AAF 20/02/45. So just leaves - 42-97311. Boeing G-45 -BO 457BG -18/02/44 AI; 28/04/44 AOS; 01/05/44 G; 03/05/44 MOD 303BG. 398BG -18/02/44 AI; 28/04/44 AOS; 22/05/45 G 303BG; 00/05/45 351BG. 303BG - 18/02/44 AI; 28/04/44 AOS ; 13/05/44 398BG; 10/06/44 AF Honington RG ?; 00/00/45 RAF Manston RG 06/02/45 ; 22/05/45 457BG. (See GOBA 806;807 - NASA 60956AC - VALA 50). 43-38311. Boeing G-85-BO. 493BG/862BS 22/07/44 AI; 09/08/44 AOS; 00/0044 G; 30/03/45 FTR AA CR Buchholz ? - Lt. Lewis B. Hoagland -1kia,9 pow, MACR 13506. 44-6311 Douglas G-50-DL. Information wanted Ref for above " Heavy Bombers of the Mighty Eighth" by Andrews & Adams 1995. AI = a/c added to AAF inventory. AOS = a/c arrived overseas. G= Gained. MOD = unknown Modification Center. GOBA = "Might in Flight: Daily Diary of the Eighth Air Force's Hell's Angels 303rd Bombardment Group (H). Harry D. Gobrecht, 1993. VALA = "Vintage Aircraft Nose Art" Gary M. Valant1987. Alex |
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44-6311 was called "Coaltown Express" and was in the 486th BG according to this page (search for the plane): http://www.486th.org/BS832/Robinson.htm
You can also to a site search and see who flew it: site:www.486th.org/ 44-6311 Since a site search for Burnley yields nothing. |
Re: B17 Identification needed
Great Rolland,
From the link you gave I found - http://www.486th.org/Mssn/M101t150/F130.htm 10/01/45 - "311" - DE 20 - BURNEY. So pilots name that day was BURNEY. Any idea as to the meaning of "DE 20" ? Different a/c but the same crew members, see 6311 - 1/10/45 mission 130. http://www.486th.org/BS834/Burney.htm Alex PS a/c name not in the book that I referenced above or in B17 nose art name directory. |
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Alex, good find. His name was Jimmie P Burney. I suspect DE was the airplane code/id and 20 was the Hardstand.
His obit is on this page: http://www.486th.org/Assn/LastFlt09.htm |
Re: B17 Identification needed
Gents,
I don't know what to say..but fantastic work. Thank you all for finding that needle !!! Kind regards Steve |
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