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seesul 6th October 2019 22:55

Re: Collings B-17 Crash
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jukka Juutinen (Post 275658)
Some rumours have it trying to land of 3 engines which according to test reports and pilot's manual should pose no problems (a B-17 will fly easily on 2 engines out). On the other hand, one rumour suggests that only 1 engine was operational at the time of the crash.


Yes when you have altitude and speed. Don't forget they faced the problem right after the take off and turned back so they were flying at a very low speed. And with 13 people aboard.

Jukka Juutinen 8th October 2019 18:54

Re: Collings B-17 Crash
 
13 people on board is very little in terms of loading. Reports suggest that it was flying with 1 engine out. With low loading like it was likely now, it should pose no problem to fly and climb on 3. To me it seems the pilot got distracted for some reason and did not note the obstacles ahead.

RSwank 16th October 2019 19:04

Re: Collings B-17 Crash
 
A preliminary NTSB report: https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/Re...=HTML&IType=MA

And a couple of articles about the report:

https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/...gs-b-17-crash/

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/...7-crash-emerge


It appears that on the return to the airport they hit approach lights 1000 feet short of the runway and hit the ground 500 feet before the runway threshold.

Some interesting comments also on both the number 3 and number 4 engines propeller positions. Also flap positions.

Here is a video on Flying a B-17: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL-zRFEt9lI

Landing procedures start at about the 18 minute mark.

So, did they first feather the wrong engine (#3) instead of #4? Were the flaps set properly for landing?

RSwank 18th June 2020 14:40

Re: Collings B-17 Crash
 
The FAA has gotten involved. (NTSB is apparently still investigating.)

FAA ruling (downloadable pdf file):

https://www.regulations.gov/document...001-11089-1673


A couple of stories about the decision:

https://www.flyingmag.com/story/news...s-permissions/


https://www.courant.com/news/connect...fui-story.html

RSwank 21st December 2020 02:20

Re: Collings B-17 Crash
 
Overview of NTSB release of Public Docket items:
https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/...undation-crash

NTSB Public Docket: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/TOCPrintable?data=100356

Explanation of some of the findings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3dD98IqEUk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HNsQuLrOqg


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