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Photo 5499 has one Me 262.
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Dan,
Post 5499 is a rear view of the line-up at Brunnthal, with the Me262 visible being the U3 “we.34” WNr.500252 of III./EJG2. Other known aircraft confirm this location. Post 5494 was taken at München-Riem with the Me262 (WNr.500???) being the one visible in other photos at the extreme eastern end of the junk pile in the northeastern corner of the airfield. Note the US deuce-and-a-half behind it entering the airfield from the road to Feldkirchen. Post 5497 is a Ju87D-3 coded DS+ZH WNr.100034, The camouflage scheme, white tailband and flame dampeners suggest an machine from I./NSGr.9. I think the location is in the München-Riem area in a nearby wooded dispersal. Best, David |
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The bigger obstacle though is that 1./NSG 9 had converted to the Fw 190 early in 1945 so if this Ju 87 belonged to that Staffel it would probably have been handed over as surplus circa January/February 1945. |
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Nick,
I agree that that these machines must have been handed over to some organization that flew them to points in southern Germany / Austria. A few thoughts. There is a photo of another similar aircraft “DS+ZV’, WNr.100048 wearing a white tailband and mounting a pair of underwing Waffen-Behälter 81A. Its spats are also missing. At München-Riem there are at least two machines that I think may have been associated with NSGr. 9: Ju 87 D-3, “??+sw.GK”, WNr.110741: Probably 2./NSGr 9. Single colour spinner, no white tailband visible, light wellen of RLM 79, white-painted rear and top of spats, white-outlined, squarish black “G” on the spats. Ju 87 D-, “??+??”, WNr.??????,: Possibly NSGr. 9. Light wellen of RLM 79, white-painted rear and top of spats, four-quartered two-colour spinner. Regarding the white-/RLM 76-coloured rear and shaft of the spats, this is seen on the Ju 87 D-3s “E8+ge.GL” and another uncoded one at Innsbruck-Hötting. Food for thought… Best, David |
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Hi David, one or two NNG 9 Ju 87’s did evacuate to Munich’s airfields (not just Riem) in April 1945 but there is another possibility. The Kommandierender General der deutschen Luftwaffe had an “Außenstelle München-Riem” (an Me 410 had accidental damage there early in 1945 — see GQM loss lists), also Komm. Gen. periodically reported on stocks of reserve aircraft (I’d need to look the figures up after all this time) so maybe this was where they were held.
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Hi Nick,
As you note, a large number of Luftwaffe aircraft were discovered scattered around Munich area airfields and forests - Riem, Oberweissenfeld, Schleissheim, Neubiberg, Brunnthal, etc. As more photos emerge new aircraft will be discovered and existing ones' identities revealed. BTW, another image of the above Ju 87 D-3 posted on the LRG confirms that its S-kenn. was not "DS+ZH" but "DS+ZU" WNr.100047. Best, David |
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Not knowing what LRG is I have not seen the photo you refer to, but are you 100% certain it is the same aircraft? "Ours" certainly do look like CS+ZH....:confused: Cheers Stig |
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