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markr 24th January 2005 06:09

Klaus Scheer and Helmut Dahms of NJG 100
 
Looking for some information on these two aces of NJG 100. Lists of their victories available?

I understand that Helmut Dahms was assigned to 1st Staffel, Klaus Scheer to 4th Staffel.

Recently saw a document, in French, something about Helmut Dahms achieving several victories in June 1944.

Thanks much if you have any information.

markr

Andy Fletcher 24th January 2005 17:14

Hi Mark,

Ofw Klaus Scheer, 24 Kills, survived war.

4/NJG100 (as of 1/44-6/44)

Ofw (Lt?) Helmut Dahms, 24 Kills (6 in 1945).

1/NJG100 (as of 23/5/44-29/10/44)

Regards

Andy Fletcher

Tom Semenza 24th January 2005 17:46

Claims for these two can be found in Tony Wood's claims lists and in Foreman, Matthews & Parry, Luftwaffe Night Fighter Combat Claims, 1939-1945 (Red Kite, 2004.)[/i]

Erich 24th January 2005 19:07

Mark:

a continuation of our conversation on the NJG 100 pilots

Dahms :

13 of June 44 // 1 U-2
17 of June 44 // 1 R-5
25 of June 44 // 1 Boston 3
29 of June 44 // 1 Il-4, 1 Boston

E ♪

Johannes 27th April 2011 11:49

Re: Klaus Scheer and Helmut Dahms of NJG 100
 
Hi Mark

Send me your personnal e.mail address and I'll forward there complete list of kills.

Kind Regards

Johannes

Jim P. 28th April 2011 03:55

Re: Klaus Scheer and Helmut Dahms of NJG 100
 
Not complete by any means - and book source (Foreman, Matthews & Parry) has been criticized by some -

Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 18-Jul-43, 10., IV., NJG 5, SB, PlQu. 34 281: 3300m, 01.43, 1., -, , i.z.Arb.LN, C.2032/II, Anerk: Nr. 26, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.94, Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 26-Aug-43, 1., I., NJG 100, R-5, PlQu. 25 865: 2100m, 22.00, 2., -, , i.z.Arb.LN, C.2035/I, Anerk: Nr. 79, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.106, Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 07-Sep-43, 1., I., NJG 100, R-5, südlich Rabanitza: 1600m, 21.08, 3., -, , yes, C.2032/II, Anerk: Nr. 82, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.112, Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 07-Sep-43, 1., I., NJG 100, U-2, westlich Ljuboshna: 1300m, 21.30, 4., -, , yes, C.2032/II, Anerk: Nr. 83, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.112, Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 07-Sep-43, 1., I., NJG 100, R-5, PlQu. 44 509: 1000m, 23.11, 5., -, , yes, C.2032/II, Anerk: Nr. 84, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.112, Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 23-May-44, 1., I., NJG 100, R-5, PlQu. 94 666/25 Ost: 700m, 22.45, 6., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. -, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.179, Eins.Osten. 21.41?
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 29-May-44, 1., I., NJG 100, R-5, PlQu. 94 689: 1200m, 00.15, 7., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 19, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.181, Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 13-Jun-44, 1., I., NJG 100, U-2, PlQu. RA 9.3/35 Ost: 3200m, 23.42, 8., -, , i.z.Arb., C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 22, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.188, Eins.Osten. 22.42?
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 17-Jun-44, 1., I., NJG 100, R-5, PlQu. RR 8.7/35 Ost: 1100m, 22.43, 9., -, , i.z.Arb., C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 23, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.190, Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 25-Jun-44, 1., I., NJG 100, Boston III, PlQu. UT 8.5/25 Ost: 1000m, 22.11, 10., -, , i.z.Arb., C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 224, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.193, Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 10-Jul-44, 1., I., NJG 100, Il-4, PlQu. 26 91/25 Ost S: 4000m, 00.14, 11., -, , yes, C. 2035/II, Anerk: Nr. 46, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.200, Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 17-Aug-44, 1., I., NJG 100, Lancaster, PlQu. QQ 45/15 Ost S: 1300m [Maribor], 01.57, 12., -, , yes, C.2025/I, Anerk: Nr. 121, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.210, Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 17-Aug-44, 1., I., NJG 100, Lancaster, PlQu. QU 93/15 Ost S: 3600m [Krakow], 02.27, 13., -, , yes, C.2025/I, Anerk: Nr. 123, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.210, Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 29-Oct-44, 1., I., NJG 100, Li-2, PlQu. 14 431: 400m, 20.51, 14., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. -, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.221, Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 20-Dec-44, 1., I., NJG 100, Il-4, -, -, 15., -, , yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.226, , , Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 20-Dec-44, 1., I., NJG 100, Il-4, -, -, 16., -, , yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.226, , , Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 21-Dec-44, 1., I., NJG 100, Il-4, -, -, 17., -, , yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.227, , , Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ofw., 21-Dec-44, 1., I., NJG 100, Il-4, -, -, 18., -, , yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.227, , , Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ltn., 27-Mar-45, I., I., NJG 100, Il-4, -, -, 19., -, , yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.245, , , Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ltn., 09-Apr-45, I., I., NJG 100, Il-4, -, -, 23., -, , yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.246, , , Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ltn., 09-Apr-45, I., I., NJG 100, Il-4, -, -, 24., -, , yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.246, , , Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ltn., 16-Apr-45, I., I., NJG 100, Li -2, -, -, 25., -, , yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.247, , , Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ltn., 18-Apr-45, I., I., NJG 100, Il-4, -, -, 21., -, , yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.247, , , Eins.Osten.
Dahms, Helmut, Ltn., 19-Apr-45, I., I., NJG 100, Il-4, -, -, 26., -, , yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.247, , , Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 11-Feb-44, 4., II., NJG 100, DB-3F, 20km südwestlich Kolke: 4100m, 00.50, 1., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 6, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.147, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 06-Mar-44, 4., II., NJG 100, PS-84, PlQu. 80 36, 23.34, 2., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 4, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.154, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 06-Mar-44, 4., II., NJG 100, PS-84, PlQu. 80 58, 23.52, 3., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 5, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.154, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 07-Mar-44, 4., II., NJG 100, PS-84, PlQu. 80 56: 2000m, 00.24, 4., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 2, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.154, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 07-Mar-44, 4., II., NJG 100, PS-84, PlQu. 80 57: 2000m, 00.46, 5., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 1, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.154, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 07-Mar-44, 4., II., NJG 100, PS-84, PlQu. 80 57: 2000m, 00.43, 6., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 3, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.154, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 09-Mar-44, 4., II., NJG 100, DB-3, PlQu. 69 129: 3800m, 18.12, 7., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 15, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.154, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 09-Mar-44, 4., II., NJG 100, DB-3, PlQu. 69 125: 3500m, 18.24, 8., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 12, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.154, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 09-Mar-44, 4., II., NJG 100, DB-3F, PlQu. 69 15/26 Ost: 3800m, 19.26, 9., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 13, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.154, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 10-Mar-44, 4., II., NJG 100, DB-3F, PlQu. 60 218/26 Ost: 3800m, 02.14, 10., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 23, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.154, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 26-Mar-44, 4., II., NJG 100, DB-3, PlQu. 70 315: 350m, 21.30, 11., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 29, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.159, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 07-Apr-44, 4., II., NJG 100, PS-84, PlQu. 60 531/26 Ost: 3700m, 21.50, 12., -, , i.z.Arb., C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 35, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.165, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 14-May-44, 4., II., NJG 100, Mitchell, PlQu. 80 56/26 Ost: 2000m, 00.20, ., -, , yes, C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. 42, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.177, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 27-Jun-44, 4., II., NJG 100, DB-3F, PlQu. BQ 27/25 Ost S: 3500m, 22.37, 14., -, , i.z.Arb., C. 2032/I, Anerk: Nr. -, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.194, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 07-Jul-44, 4., II., NJG 100, B-25, PlQu. GH 9.7: 150m, 23.10, 15., -, , i.z.Arb., C. 2035/II, Anerk: Nr. 50, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.198, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 24-Aug-44, 4., II., NJG 100, R-5, PlQu. DD 8.9: 800m, 02.03, 16., -, , yes, C. 2035/II, Anerk: Nr. 52, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.210, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 25-Aug-44, 4., II., NJG 100, U-2, PlQu. DD 9.5/25 Ost: 800m, 01.35, 17., -, , yes, C. 2035/II, Anerk: Nr. 56, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.210, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 26-Aug-44, 4., II., NJG 100, DB-3F, PlQu. RE 8.9: 3500m, 21.11, 18., -, , yes, C. 2035/II, Anerk: Nr. 57, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.211, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 26-Aug-44, 4., II., NJG 100, Boston, PlQu. RE 5.4: 3000m, 21.26, 19., -, , yes, C. 2035/II, Anerk: Nr. -, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.211, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Ltn., 26-Aug-44, 4., II., NJG 100, DB-3F, PlQu. RE 5.5: 2700m, 21.52, 20., -, , yes, C. 2035/II, Anerk: Nr. 58, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.212, Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Oblt., 15-Jan-45, I., I., NJG 100, Li-2, -, -, 21., -, , yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.230, , , Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Oblt., 15-Jan-45, I., I., NJG 100, Li-2, -, -, 22., -, , yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.230, , , Eins.Osten.
Scheer, Klaus, Oblt., 18-Apr-45, I., I., NJG 100, Il-4, -, -, 23., -, , yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.247, , , Eins.Osten.

Nokose 28th April 2011 04:24

Re: Klaus Scheer and Helmut Dahms of NJG 100
 
The claim for a DB-3 on the 26Mar44 was an Il-4 from the 1GMTAP in the area of Tallin.

Kurt Braatz 23rd May 2011 11:35

Re: Klaus Scheer and Helmut Dahms of NJG 100
 
Postwar, Klaus Scheer had earned a degree in law and worked as a lawyer before joining Lufthansa in the mid-1950s. He had been a Lufthansa captain and member of Lufthansa's board of directors for many years. Alive and well, retired in Munich.

Edward L. Hsiao 20th February 2021 05:54

Re: Klaus Scheer and Helmut Dahms of NJG 100
 
Are these two German nightfighter aces still alive today?

Edward L. Hsiao

Juha 20th February 2021 14:51

Re: Klaus Scheer and Helmut Dahms of NJG 100
 
Klaus Scheer visited Finland in May 2005 with Peter Spoden giving some lectures on their LW careers. See: http://www.virtualpilots.fi/en/featu...denscheer2005/
The text is in Finnish but try Google translator, at the end there is information on Scheer's career. There seems to be at least one typo, the claims that he had studied law after the war 18 years in Minneapolis, USA, and that he became in 1954 a Lufthansa pilot seems not quite fit together. Maybe 8 years in Minneapolis and then in 1954 to Lufthansa for pilot type conversion training or whatever it is called.

Juha


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