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Luftwaffe Radar in North Africa
Does anyone know when Luftwaffe radar installations moved to North Africa, and which type they were? I have an urgent request from Fliegerfuehrer in the middle of November to send a FREYA unit, but wanted to know a bit more on the employment of Luftwaffe radar in North Africa.
I seem to remember having read that it became operational during spring 42, but any further information would be most welcome. Many thanks! All the best Andreas |
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You need to drop Michaël/SES a line via his excellent website here Andreas, if anybody is going to know, Mr.SES is generally your man...
Cheers Peter D Evans LEMB Administrator |
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Hi Andreas,
I'll check what I have got and be back with you. bregds SES |
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Many thanks SES.
All the best Andreas |
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Hi Andreas,
From K.O. Hoffmann Band II/1: Ein erstes Freya-Gerät (F-Lafette [Z] 32), unter Führung des Leutnants Deleiter, war bereits im Januar 1942 bei der Flak in Tripolis zum Schütze der wichtigsten Nachschubbasis und des bedeutendsten Hafens in Nordafrika eingesetzt worden. Sicherer und weitreichender wurde der Flugmeldedienst aber, als im April 1942 das erste teilmotorisierte Würzburg-Dora-Gerät bei der Flugmeldekompanie 7/Afrika eintraf und in der Bomba-Bucht, nahe dem Flugplatz Tmimi, ostwärts Derna, Aufstellung fand. Dort hatte das Gerät in der hügeligen Landschaft nicht nur einen guten Standort, sondern konnte auch Teile der Küstenstraße, der „Via Balbia", und die Bomba-Bucht selbst überwachen. Die Einzelflugzeuge der RAF benutzten bei gelegentlichen „Besuchen" der Küstenstraße, in Derna und der nahen Flugplatzgruppe Martuba den Anflug über See, um dem gefürchteten Flugmeldedienst zu entgehen. Leutnant Kahler und Oberfähnrich Kleeschulte hatten ihr Gerät recht bald einsatzbereit und stellten schnell ihre Besatzung auf die besonderen afrikanischen Verhältnisse ein. Please also see: http://www.gyges.dk/Flum%20Med%208.pdf Eventually the Ln-units in Africa were organized in Luftnachrichten-Regiment 200 and addtional info may be obtained by following the history of this unit. bregds SES |
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Hello Andreas, hello Michaël,
There are some interesting references too in the Korpstagebefehle des XII. Fliegerkorps, I will look tonight for you. By the way: K.O. Hoffmann has quite a substantial part written about the German radar sites in North-Africa. I must have somewhere pdf's of his books... All the best, Marcel |
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Hello SES (Michael?) and Marcel
Many many thanks for this! All the best Andreas |
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Hi Anders,
My pleasure, hope it helps a little. bregds SES |
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Hello Michaël and Andreas,
I had a brief look into those Korpstagebefehle des XII. Fliegerkorps and attached to it is indeed a brief summary about the last days of the Funkmessstellungen in North Africa. I will scan these and send it to you both soon. All the best, Marcel |
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Hi Marcel
Look forward to it! All the best Andreas |
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All - I have followed this discussion with interest ever since I came across a report on material ferried to Tunisia that listed 42 radars as having been delivered! Sounds like there was quite an integrated air defense system for the Luftwaffe, of a sorts, in place in Tunisia during the campaign.
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I now have some info from HW5 that Freya and Wuerzburg apparatus arrived at Bari by 6 Dec 41, but could not be sent on by air without dismantling, and no technician was on hand to do this.
All the best Andreas |
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Hi guys
Whilst on the subject of German radar, may I enquire what units were based in Greece, Crete and the Aegean 1943-45? Here's hoping Brian |
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Hi Brian,
Unfortunately I don't know the name of the units, but here are most locations: http://www.gyges.dk/Flum%20Med%208.pdf and http://www.gyges.dk/Flum%20SE%205.pdf and http://www.gyges.dk/Jag%20Leit%20Med%205.pdf and http://www.gyges.dk/Jag%20Leit%20SE%204.pdf bregds SES |
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Many thanks indeed SES
Most interesting. Cheers Brian |
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No problem, my pleasure.
bregds SES |
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All the best Andreas |
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And on 23 Jan 42 I have an ULTRA intercept stating the Germans intended to place 3x Freya on Crete and 1x ea on Scarpanto and Rhodes.
That would have been a nice early warning system for raids on Athens and Patras. All the best Andreas |
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Hello Andreas,
Came across this thread again and saw my (unfullfilled) promise to scan the KTB XII.Fliegerkorps pages about the 'Einsatz' of Ln.Abt. in North-Africa. Will do my very best to send these scans, it has somehow escaped my attention, sorry for that! I made a reminder and take this at home now. Till soon, all the best, Marcel |
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