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Nick Beale 4th October 2009 09:51

Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Oxley (Post 93249)
Nick, this line caught my eye.

Any idea why the card index would have been destroyed? Surely not for security reasons.

Exactly that, I'm afraid. At least according to all the accounts of the survivors. And by demolishing the Colossus computers our leaders unwittingly threw away a whole postwar industry and had to start again a few years later.

SES 5th October 2009 10:14

Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe
 
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Originally Posted by odybvig (Post 93142)
At my last stay at NA, I scanned (with a camera) following files
AIR40/2687 and AIR40/2697, both mentioned at Nick Beales page: http://www.ghostbombers.com/various/...tra_3.html#top

I have organized each of them as a singel pdf. file.

Anyone care for a copy?

Olve Dybvig
www.luftwaffe.no

I downloaded 2687 last night and did a bit of browsing in the document this morning. IMHO it is one of the most valuable documents on the last six month of the Luftwaffe I have seen for years, and it could lead to scores of posts and re-writing of old ones. Just to give one example: The NJGs are ordered to transfer a number of crews to JGs "in order to provide navigational assistance" on 4 December 1944, I wonder what bells were ringing in the allied intel community. Events, which have been discussed as possible myths are now confirmed. I can only recommend that you take Olve up on his kind offer.
bregds from a very grateful
SES
www.gyges.dk

Peter D Evans 5th October 2009 14:13

Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by odybvig (Post 93142)
At my last stay at NA, I scanned (with a camera) following files
AIR40/2687 and AIR40/2697, both mentioned at Nick Beales page: http://www.ghostbombers.com/various/...tra_3.html#top

I have organized each of them as a singel pdf. file.

Anyone care for a copy?

Olve Dybvig
www.luftwaffe.no

Me too please Olve... please check your PM inbox :)

Cheers
Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

George Hopp 7th October 2009 04:20

Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe
 
The last months of the Luftwaffe are a chasm of lack of knowledge. So, yes, I would also like a copy of your material, Olve. And, thank you for making this material available to us.
All the best,
George
george.hopp@yahoo.ca

steve sheridan 7th October 2009 09:59

Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe
 
Good morning Olve, i would also like a copy if possible.

Best regs,
Steve.

Eric GUILLAUME 7th October 2009 10:30

Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe
 
Hello Olve,

If anything concerning training units, I should be interested too.
Thanks.
Best regards.
Eric
ergui@club-internet.fr

Rolfeb 2nd November 2009 19:32

Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe
 
Perhaps I did not read all detail but how can I can I get access to this documents. Do I hve to visit a Military Archive?

Thanks in advance
Rolf

Bruce Dennis 2nd November 2009 21:13

Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe
 
Rolf, many of the Ultra decrypts discussed here are held at The National Archives, Kew, southwest London.

If you follow the link below to my website and go to the SAMPLEs page, you will find a couple of examples.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

Nick Beale 2nd November 2009 21:29

Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Dennis (Post 95168)
… many of the Ultra decrypts discussed here are held at The National Archives, Kew, southwest London.

All of the ones I wrote about are at the National Archives.

Rolfeb 3rd November 2009 09:16

Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe
 
Thanks a lot for the prompt reply.

Rolf


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