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CJE 16th May 2011 13:13

Henschel Hs 123
 
The number of Hs 123s built seems subject to debate.
Prototypes: 6 (all sources concur)
Hs 123 A-0: 16 or 18
Hs 123 A-1: from 235 to 265 (Wikipedia: 1 000 :D) but impossible to know if the prototypes and the pre-series are included.

Sources:
- Flugzeug Profile #42
- Wydawnictwo Militaria
- Green's Warplanes of the IIIrd Reich
- Vajda/Dancey's German Aircraft Industry and Production

Thanks for your help.

Chris

Don Pearson 16th May 2011 13:25

Re: Henschel Hs 123
 
"Combat Aircraft of World War Two", by Weal & Weal, 1977 lists 610;

6 prototypes
604 A-1

No mention of the A-0.

Don

CJE 16th May 2011 13:36

Re: Henschel Hs 123
 
Don,

601 machines built between '36 and '37 and only a handful to equip II.(Schl)/LG 2 in September 1939?
Where were the 500+ other aircraft still surviving?
Doesn't match.
Vajda/Dancey wrote that 187 had been accepted on a 235 order by 01.07.37.
Very doubtful that ca 400 more were built after 1938.

Chris

Gizmo 16th May 2011 14:16

Re: Henschel Hs 123
 
Wikiepedia.de claimed 248 including 6 prototypes, 16 A-0 and 229 Hs 123 A-1/B-1. So possibly right number is 235 Hs 123 A-1/B-1 including 229 delivered.

Seaplanes 16th May 2011 19:37

Re: Henschel Hs 123
 
The Hs 123 was produced by Henschel, Berlin and Ago, Oschersleben.
The total number produced, including protoypes and pre-production series,
were 266 aircraft. There were three prototypes, V-1 W.Nr. 265/D-ILUA, V-2 W.Nr. 266 and V-3 W.Nr. 267/D-IKOU)ordered initially. Later V-4 (W.Nr.670/D-IZXY), V-5 (W.Nr. 796/D-INRA), V-6 (W.Nr. 797/D-IHDI)and V-7 (W.Nr. ??/D-IUPO) were all parts of the Hs 123A-0 series. There were two main production series, the Hs 123A-1 and Hs 123B-1, both versions were produced by both factories. The deliveries were:
May 1936 1 aircraft
August 1936 1 aircraft, September 1936 6, October 1936 9,
November 1936 11, December 1936 26, January 1937 24
February 1937 10, March 1937 63, April 1037 24, May 1937 7,
June 1937 22, July 1937 22, August 1937 15, September 1937 5,
October 1937 4, November 1937 12, December 1937 1,
February 1938 1, May 1938 1, September 1938 1.
The last thre aircraft were probably aircraft held by the factories for various test purposes and not taken over by RLM until after the original series production had seized.
Unfortunately, the record (In the BA/MA RL 3 series) does not give the number produced for each version.
In the RLM Flugzeug Lieferplan Nr. 5 of 1.4.1937, the total number on
order was 115 from Henschel and 140 from Ago. This figure of 255 aircraft reflect only A-1 and B-1 series aircraft. This should indicate that the remaining 11 aircraft was made up by the three real protoypes and eight Hs 123A-0 aircraft. Thus the total figure was 266 including everything.

Evgeny Velichko 16th May 2011 23:06

Re: Henschel Hs 123
 
Seaplanes - thx for answer! Any info on W.Nr. blocks?

CJE 17th May 2011 14:22

Re: Henschel Hs 123
 
Great !
That sums it up...
Nothing to add, except thank you.

Chris

Pieter H 17th May 2011 22:14

Re: Henschel Hs 123
 
Seaplanes,

Great summary, thanks.
I'm a bit confused, though.
In your overview you mention that production was of both A-1 and B-1 versions.
However, all other sources I checked only mention A-1 series production. The V-5 was supposed to be a B-version prototype with BMW 132K engine, but never taken into production. (Similarly V-6 as C-prototype).
This suggests all 255 production aircraft were A-1.
If however, part of production were B-1's, what was then the difference with the A-1?

Hope you can shed some light on this.

Regards, Pieter

Evgeny Velichko 17th May 2011 22:56

Re: Henschel Hs 123
 
B-1 was all metal, A-1 was mixed.

W.Nr. blocks are (known W.Nr's from losslists):

211-260
632
792-794
831-865
936-971

And next:
2248-2345
2424-2434
2731-2738

What does that mean?
3-digit for A-1 and 4 digit for B-1, or;
3-digit for Henschel and 4-digit for AGO?

Evgeny Velichko 18th May 2011 08:38

Re: Henschel Hs 123
 
Also, more questions:
Quote:

Later V-4 (W.Nr.670/D-IZXY), V-5 (W.Nr. 796/D-INRA), V-6 (W.Nr. 797/D-IHDI)and V-7 (W.Nr. ??/D-IUPO) were all parts of the Hs 123A-0 series.
Hs 123 A-0: 16 built,
(Henschel) 628-635
(AGO Flugzeugwerke)788-795

A-0 W.Nr. does not contain Hs 123V-4 !

2. Hs123A in Spain

First batch arrived, sept.36:

Hs123 24*1 "Scull and 2 bones emblem"
Hs123 24*2 "Teufelkopf" emblem
Hs123 24*3 "Teufelkopf" emblem
Pilots:
Lt. Heinrich Brucker on 9.9.1937 had 1 victory with 2.J/88, I-16

Uffz. Emil (or Konrad?) Rückert abgeschossen bei einem Tiefangriff at Aravaca (Madrid) on 25.03.1937

Uffz. August Wilmsen, abgeschossen bei einem Tiefangriff at Bilbao on 11.06.1937

Second batch arrived, early 37:

Hs123 24*4 - no photo
Hs123 24*5
Hs123 24*6 - no photo
Pilots:

Fw. Fritz Hillmann (pilot from 2.J/88)
338 13.7.1937 Ofw. Fritz Hillmann 2.J/88 I-16 1 unconfirmed
339 17.7.1937 Ofw. Fritz Hillmann 2.J/88 I-16 2 unconfirmed
57 18.7.1937 Ofw. Fritz Hillmann 2.J/88 I-16 3

Uffz. Hermann Beuer (pilot from 1.J/88)

Third pilot unknown

Of those 6 a/c, 4 were lost and last 2 (24*3 and 24*5) were given to Aviacion Nacional

12 a/c arrived in 1939 and saw no action.

Hs123 24*7
Hs123 24*8
Hs123 24*9 - no photo
Hs123 24*10
Hs123 24*11 - no photo
Hs123 24*12
Hs123 24*13, crashed 5.12.41
Hs123 24*14 - no photo
Hs123 24*15 - no photo
Hs123 24*16 - no photo
Hs123 24*17 - crashed on 3.10.39 Escuadrilla de Bombardeo en Picada de la 2 Region Aeria
Hs123 24*18 - no photo

3. 12 Hs123 arrived to China in 1937. What W.Nr.s they had?


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