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http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-MILI...QAAOSwOVpXUNjx

Bf109( partial code), Me110, Do217

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The 109 is a WNF built Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 511 8.9 "Schwarze 1", unknown training unit, possibly found at Schleissheim, May 1945.

Cheers
Marc

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Nice find, Snautzer :)

This seems to be the airfield at Ainring. Another shot of He 111 "??+JW" can be seen on page 61 in the book "Doras of the Galland Circus" by Jerry Crandall. Also of note is the "Mistel" gear on the Do 217. This plane might have belonged to the Deutsche Forschungsanstalt für Segelflug (perhaps for experimental flights with the Me 328 or DFS 228?). According to Technical Intelligence Report No. E-34 (also quoted in Crandall's book) one Do 217 was captured at Ainring. I bet it's the one in these Ebay photos..

Cheers,
Christian

EDIT: I just see that the same TI report mentions a Ju 88, equipped for carrying a V-1. Would love to see a shot of this one too..

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Thanks for your insight, Christian. For the 109 shots, I would doubt Ainring as there are definitely no Alps to be seen in the background...

Cheers
Marc

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Hey Marc, just turn around, then you can see them ;)

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Done ! Thanks for the pinpointing, Christian !

Cheers
Marc

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Is it unusual that the 109G-14 has C3 in the primer tank fuel triangle as opposed to B4?

Cheers,

D.B.

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Me262

1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WWI...cAAOSwuhhXVJ6a
2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WWI...cAAOSwtJZXVKXh

Bf109

1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WWI...4AAOSwLnBXVKEb
2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WWI...AAAOSwnNBXVKBF
3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WWI...0AAOSwnFZXVKUU

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Appears to be W.Nr. 201835, so a G-8 reconnaissance model.

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Michael,

This is a Fw190! :) PS #2 in your list ...

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Anyone here with copy of this report?

Best regards
Ed

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Hello Ed,

I got a copy of the report on Ainring,#E-14 dated 28th June 1945 which is also reproduced in Jerry Crandalls „Doras of the Galland Circus“.
It has three pages, mainly on the research institute itself, on buildings and experimental items found, among them a complete He 280 without jet-engines undergoing stress-tests.

The operational types found were only listed without any notes on subtypes, Werknummern or codes:
3 (?) ME 108
7 ME 109
3JU 87
5 JU 52
3 FW 190 (long nose)
4 HE 111
1 ME 110
1 DO 217
1 JU 88 (with attachment for carrying V-1)
5 Fiesler Storch (sic)
1 TE Transport (Siebel 204).

Published photos show that there were at least two Ar 96 trainers and four DFS 230 gliders around. I would like to see a photo of the Ju 88. Jerrys booklet is full of nice photos anyway!

HTH

Carl

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trainer Ar96: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WWI...cAAOSwqBJXVKQk

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If anybody wants a scan of TI Report E-14 please PM me with your e-mail address. My scan is too big to upload here.

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FE-490/T2-490 Horten Ho229V-3 prob. known but a nice clear image

http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id...anguage,D.html

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Carl and Ed,

In addition to the above-noted machines, photos reveal that there were also the following:

Heinkel He 46 E “D-IHEA”
Klemm KL 31 “KO+AW”
Focke-Wulf Fw 190 D-9 "Red 3" (JV 44)
Focke-Wulf Fw 190 D-9 "Red 13" (JV 44)
Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A
Grunau "Baby"

Cheers,

David

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D-IHEA was a He 46E W.Nr. 877 first flown at EHF on 13. May 1935.

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Hey David,
can you tell me where to find a photo of D-IHEA at Ainring revealing the code? This plane is visible in some of the photos I know, but sadly the code is readable in none of them..

Cheers,
Christian

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The Klemm should read KO+AW - as found for this plane in several log books.
KQ+AW was an Ar 76.

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I can confirm the Stkz as KO+AW but I have this as a Kl 31. Is this correct?

Thanks
Tom

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FYI, Grunau Baby ... flew 2 of the DFS-49 Grunau Baby IIb2 glider version (wider cockpit) on winch tow, open cockpit, many times. Glide ratio of 1:17 or less (optimist). You push one rudder and ... wait for response ... Deep stall and one can look ahead the other way! Landing distance down to just 5 meters, not much wind needed. -Ed

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Gents,

Many thanks for the additional information / corrections. I have included these in my original post.

Christian, the images for the Klemm and Heinkel come from my own collection.

Ed, glad you survived your adventures with the "Baby"!

Cheers,

David

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KO+AW is a Kl 31

Regards,
Norbert

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Fw190 Mourmelon, France

1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Photo-4...gAAOSwzJ5XfQrc
2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Photo-4...3D222178420965
3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Photo-4...3D222178421707
4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Photo-406th-...3D142047017636

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Fw190- Ju88 Mistel
http://www.ebay.de/itm/2-Wk-Foto-Flu...4AAOSwFc5Xwsyp

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This German guy sells low quality repro photos.
I don't have good experience with him.

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FW190 DH+BG Found at Koethen / Köthen, Germany 1945

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Focke-Wulf-F...gAAOSwMgdXxIk8

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Bf109, Stendal 1945

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Messerschmit...UAAOSw8oFXzdJV

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Colour, wreck, Fw190, 1945

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sli...AAAOSwxg5Xxaqk

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Colour, Ju188, 1945
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sli...wAAOSwMgdXxayG

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Does anyone know the buyer of the Ju 188 slide? If the buyer reads this, can you PM me?

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Hi Roger
Start with the RICH List! LOL

Regards Tom

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I am not on it, for sure. :/

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Ooooh, a colour slide of two Fw-190 D's....and the one of the Ju-88 is amazing. Interesting green it is wearing.

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Fi156, english markings

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-9...8AAOSwvzRX0GRf

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French I believe.

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Me262
http://www.ebay.de/itm/2-Wk-Foto-Flu...oAAOSwmLlX17~D

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Me 262A-2a WNr 500279, F1+DA from Stab/KG 76. Found damaged April 4th 1945 Giebelstadt a/f. Alternatively as 9K+DA. Otoh, the cloloured rings around the jet intake are a characteristic feature for KG 76 jets.

Regards
RolandF

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Possible JV44

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-P...AAAOSwvzRX1eHV