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GOFRIDUS 16th October 2005 12:21

FW190 JG2 at Nantes in 23/9/1943
 
A old man living near the Chateau-Bougon airfield during WW2 saw several FW190 in landing quickly at Nantes in 1943. Several aircraft were damaged in the confusion.

In a list received afew days ago I noted that in 1943 septembre 23 (date of Nantes bombing), 5 aircrafts are noted as :
Nantes JG2 FW190A6 Wn170039 (100)
Nantes JG2 FW190A6 Wn530312 (100)
Nantes b. JG2 FW190A6 Wn530395 (100)
Nantes b. JG2 BF109G6 Wn19472 (100)
Nantes b. JG2 FW190A6 Wn 470012 (40).
So I try to find a connection between the both informations.

Do you more inforrmations about this event?
Friendly

kaki3152 16th October 2005 17:26

Re: FW190 JG2 at Nantes in 23/9/1943
 
There is a great picture of Oblt Josef Wurmheller FW-190A-6 (Wk # 530314) in Rodeike's FW-190 book on this date Sept 23.1943. The plane should be listed in your list as the plane is torn in half. Wurmheller was caught by the bombing while landing and was lucky to survive. He was severely injured in this event.

heinz 16th October 2005 20:14

Re: FW190 JG2 at Nantes in 23/9/1943
 
Joseph Wurmheller 's Plane has been destroyed in the Vannes-Meucon Airfield , that day during the Bombing of the airfield .

GOFRIDUS 20th October 2005 22:34

Re: FW190 JG2 at Nantes in 23/9/1943
 
Thank for all

Have you the precise crashplace of these FW190s during this day ?

All teh best

TWC1943 16th April 2006 07:02

Re: FW190 JG2 at Nantes in 23/9/1943
 
My uncle was in the 379thbg he was a Tailgunner on a B17 thats original target was Rennes but because of smoke and cloud cover they went to the secondary target Nantes to St Jaques Airdrome. They were hit and downed by fighters on this mission. The AC#42-29937 crashed somewhere around there 8 crew members were captured and sent to camps and 2 evaded capture. One of it's engines is in a Airwarfare museum in Nantes.
TWC1943

Kaczmarek 16th April 2006 18:22

Re: FW190 JG2 at Nantes in 23/9/1943
 
Hello,

WNr. 170 039 (470 039) Lt. Rolf Geissler (G.stab) woundet E Chéméré, bailed out
WNr. 530 312 ? probably Uffz. Reinhold Klein (3.) woundet W Nantes, dogfight Spitfire
WNr. 530 395 Olt. Josef Pusch (10.) killed S Nantes, dogfight with P-47
WNr. 19 472 ?
WNr. 470 012 Ofw. Walter Ebert (10.) woundet N Nantes, dogfight P-47

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Kaczmarek

Andreas Brekken 16th April 2006 23:51

Re: FW190 JG2 at Nantes in 23/9/1943
 
Hi!

According to my information, JG 2 lost a total of 17 aircraft on this date to several causes.

You might as well sort the ones you are interested in out yourself:

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=107167

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=107170

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=107169

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=105854

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=107178

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=105906

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=105905

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=105904

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=107171

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=107177

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=107179

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=107172

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=105860

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=105858

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=105859

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=105861

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=107176

Regards,
Andreas

kaki3152 16th April 2006 23:59

Re: FW190 JG2 at Nantes in 23/9/1943
 
Andreas,

Some of the dates ahve a typo- the year is listed as 1944. I don't doubt that these should all be 1943.

Carlos

Dan Gilberti 17th April 2006 00:26

Re: FW190 JG2 at Nantes in 23/9/1943
 
FW190A-6 470039 Geisler, Ltn. Rolf 23-9-43 Near Nantes FR Stab 2 WIA on 23.9.43 in Luftkampf. 100%
FW190A-6 530312 Klein, Uffz. Reinhold 23-9-43 Nantes FR I. 2 WIA on 23.9.43 in Luftkampf. 100%
FW190A-6 530395 Pusch, Oblt. Josef 23-9-43 Near Nantes FR 10. 2 KIA on 23.9.43 in Luftkampf. 100%
For 19472 it's 109 G6
Bf 109G-6 19472 23-9-43 Near Nantes FR 12. 2 Crashed on 23.9.43 after Luftkampf. Pilot OK, FSA. 100%
FW190A-6 470012 Elent, Ofw. Walter 23-9-43 Near Nantes FR 10. 2 Bauchlandung on 23.9.43 due to enemy return fire. Pilot WIA. 40%
Source F LW Loss Report (microfilm roll #11)-Vol. 21

Andreas Brekken 17th April 2006 14:29

Re: FW190 JG2 at Nantes in 23/9/1943
 
Hi. Fixed the typos.

Regards,
Andreas


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