Oblt. Greiner's victory on 2/5/1944
 

Hi all,

I would like to know whether somebody has information concerning the 24th victory of Oblt. Georg-Hermann Greiner (11./NJG 1) on 2/5/1944 (combat report or witness report). He claimed this victory at 00.15 h. at 15 km S. of Brussels, thus near Braine-l'Alleud. Many thanks for your help in anticipation.

Rgds.

Re: Oblt. Greiner's victory on 2/5/1944
 

Hi,

I have Georg Greiner's victories timed as 00.28 and 00.36 hours on 02.05.44, both of which he claimed/identified were Halifaxes involved in raids on railway yards at Ghislain and Malines in Belgium.

I know for a fact he doesn't have his log books or copies of any of his victory reports, and his memory for individual claims is not good.

All the best,

Re: Oblt. Greiner's victory on 2/5/1944
 

Hi Gentlemen,

I have Halifax LW-415 - 429 Sqdn - 00.36 hrs near Bevere-Meerschaert Belgium and HX-347 - 10 Sqdn at 0028 hrs near Eppegem Belgium

Alain

Re: Oblt. Greiner's victory on 2/5/1944
 

Hi David & Alain,

Thanks for your help. I know Greiner is still alive, but it is really a pity he lost all his combat reports and his log book.

Rgds.

Re: Oblt. Greiner's victory on 2/5/1944
 

I will be speaking with Georg over the next few days, i will ask him about the log book. I believe he gave it away sometime during the 60s or 70s. I have a copy of his first log book, but this only goes up to the end of 1942. I will ask him about the second log book and see if he can remember to whom he gave it. All the best,

Re: Oblt. Greiner's victory on 2/5/1944
 

I am attempting to locate Georg-Herrmann Greiner of Wangen Germany or his wife Helga or son Michael. I am his son-in-law and father of his three grand-daughters. (813)625-1105

Re: Oblt. Greiner's victory on 2/5/1944
 

Have you checked the German phone books? They are available on-line.

GREINER, Hermann. (DOB: 02.01.20 in Heidenheim/Brenz). (RE, DKG). 01.10.38 entered the Luftwaffe. 03.39 began schooling: attended Aufklärungsschule at Grossenhain, Blindflugschule at Neuburg-Donau, Zerstörerschule 2 at Memmingen, JFS 2 at Schleissheim and Nachtjadgschule at Stuttgart-Echterdingen. 30.10.39 received pilot’s licence. c.11.39 attended FFS C at Alt- Lönnewitz. 09.41 finished schooling. 01.10.41 Lt. trf II./NJG 1. 01.42 trf to 4./NJG 2. 01.04.42 promo to Oblt. 06.42 in IV./NJG 1. 07.10.42 with 11./NJG 1. 23.11.42 began training with Nachtjagdschule 1. 19.05.43 trf to 10./NJG 1. 01.09.43 Oblt., appt Staka 10./NJG 1 (to 01.03.44). 04.10.43 appt Staka Luftbeobachter-Erprobungstaffel of I./NJG 1. 02.12.43 returned to 10./NJG 1. 28.02.44 Oblt., awarded the Ehrenpokal. 01.03.44 appt Staka 11./NJG 1 (to 03.11.44). 29.03.44 Oblt., awarded DKG, 10./NJG 1. 01.06.44 in IV./NJG 1, promo to Hptm. 27.07.44 Oblt., Staka 11./NJG 1, awarded Ritterkreuz. 04.11.44 Hptm., appt Kdr. IV./NJG 1 (to 08.05.45). 05.03.45 WIA. 07/08.03.45 severely WIA over the Eifel area. Spent remainder of war in hospital. 17.04.45 Hptm., awarded Eichenlaub. Credited with 204 combat missions and 51 air victories, all but 4 at night. 1946-57 studied law and became a sales representative for a textile factory. 08.57 joined the Bundesluftwaffe with the rank of Hauptmann. He served 17 years rising to the rank of Oberstleutnant. 1972 retired. He has lived in Wangen since 1980.

Georg Hermann Greiner
 

Hi WayneIvey,

I will telephone you tomorrow morning and i'll help if i can. Georg is still at the same address.

Cheers,

David.

Georg-Hermann Greiner
 

Hello guys

Just one question: would anyone have the usual loss list information for the aircraft he was shot down in on 12 September 1944 while flying with the Gruppenstab of IV./NJG 1? Although able to crash-land the fighter at Dortmund his crewman Oberfeldwebel Kissing was killed in the attack. Many thanks.

Horrido!

Leo

Re: Oblt. Greiner's victory on 2/5/1944
 

Hi all,

Definitively the Halifax shot down at 00.28 h did not crash at Eppegem, but at Braine-l'Alleud. The only surviving crew member, Sgt James T.H. Burton from 10 Sqn, parachuted down in the garden of a house in Braine-l'Alleud, some 15 km S. of Brussels.