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Michal 30th November 2007 20:04

Nightfighter on Oct 25/26 1944
 
Hello,

in one German Report is written that Nightfighter shot down one He 111 during supply flight on Oct 25/26 1944. Does somebody know who (plane serial, crew, unit) claimed this He 111 and where?

Thanks for help

Michal

Leendert 1st December 2007 17:39

Re: Nightfighter on Oct 25/26 1944
 
Michal,

I'm sure this German report must have been made somewhere that can put the forumnites in some sort of direction?

Thanks for any additional info.

Regards,

Leendert

Michal 1st December 2007 19:05

Re: Nightfighter on Oct 25/26 1944
 
Sorry, Leendert,

I donīt understand you. My question is if any allied fighter claimed during Night Oct 25/26 1944 one or more He 111s.

If do you think report, there is only written: 6 planes ordered to supply Dunkerque, only two of them succesfully dropped their load on target. One shot down by Night Fighter, one shot down by AAA, one damaged by Flak and crash-landed, one missing.

So, it is all of inrormation I have. I have got losses of TGr. 30 during this night, but I am not sure if any Allied Night Fighter claimed victory over He 111 this Night.

Thanks for help.

Michal

Frank Olynyk 1st December 2007 20:00

Re: Nightfighter on Oct 25/26 1944
 
There are two British claims in the early evening of Oct 25, and no American claims at all. At 1923 at H.9525, 50 m E of Lowestoft, the 125 Sqn crew of F/O W A Beale+F/O Ronald A Pargeter (R/O) claimed a He-111, in Mosquito XVII HK310.

At 1945 at 60 m E of Great Yarmouth, the FIU crew of F/O Desmond Trevor Tull+F/O Peter James Cowgill (nav? or R/O?) claimed a He-111 in a Beaufighter VI (serial unknown).

Combat reports for both are held at the PRO.

Frank.

Michal 1st December 2007 21:12

Re: Nightfighter on Oct 25/26 1944
 
Thanks, Frank.

They are not for sure my possibly candidates. Maybe there is fault in German Report. Planes were not for sure shot down over sea.

Best

Michal

Brian Bines 1st December 2007 23:42

Re: Nightfighter on Oct 25/26 1944
 
I think the claims Frank referred to were V-1 launchers. According to RAF 'K' reports one He111 came down 5 miles south of Dunkirk crew killed, another 6 miles west of Dunkirk crew killed and the last 29 Km south of Dunkirk with 2 POW and 3 killed. All these came from TG 30 and all fell to light AA between 2000 and 2100 hrs on 26th. Oct,

Hope this helps

Brian Bines

Leendert 2nd December 2007 10:39

Re: Nightfighter on Oct 25/26 1944
 
Michal,

I missed the more detailed contents of the German report in your initial question.....


Regards,

Leendert

mhuxt 2nd December 2007 11:06

Re: Nightfighter on Oct 25/26 1944
 
Frank:

Cowgill was certainly Tull's R/O on the Mosquitos when the two crewed together on Mosquitos on both 219 Squadron and the FIU.

Cheers,

Mark

Michal 2nd December 2007 17:09

Re: Nightfighter on Oct 25/26 1944
 
According Namentliche Verlustmeldungen and other documents He 111s were able to be shot down during Night Oct 26th/27th 1944. Brian Bines has right. So, I donīt know whatīs happened with German Documents but there is really written Night Oct 25th/26th 1944. According to some other sources as War Diaries of Units which besieged Dunkirk, all planes should be victims of Flak.

But for sure I would like to put an other question: what about Nightfighters claims during Night Oct 26th/27th 1944? Type He 111?

Thanks for help

Michal


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