EZ 42 in FW 190
 

Hi

I believe there has been some discussion with regards to the number of aircraft equipped with these.

I have come across listings of which aircraft types where produced with breakdown to subtypes for the Bf 109 and FW 190 for 1945, where these numbers are mentioned (subtype given as D9 EZ 42)

The listings also include all production numbers by month from January 1944 through March 1945 (last one dated in April 1945). In a lot of cases specific information on number of aircraft delivered to a given unit is mentioned. I do not know if these are of interest to anyone?


Regards,
Andreas B

Re: EZ 42 in FW 190
 

Hello Andreas,

That sounds very interesting!

I have some production numbers from the diary of Kriegstagebuch Chef TLR, but would have to dig them out. Would be interesting to compare.

Also, I would be interested in how many Me 109 and Fw 190 were equiped with the EZ42.

Is the Me 262 also mentioned in your documents?

Regards
Roger Gaemperle

Re: EZ 42 in FW 190
 

Hi,

all aircraft models produced in the given timespan is mentioned, from reconnoissance through fighters and bombers and even school aircraft.

Example:

February 1945,

Nah-aufklärer:

Me 262
No aircraft from ordinary industry, but 13 from Umbau-Industrie. All 13 taken over by GenQu and delivered to NAG 6

Jäger:

Me 262
212 new, 11 repaired, 1 additional repaired, total 224.
93 of these delivered to the industry for further installation of equipment (Nachrüst-betr.)
20 of these delivered to the industry for modifications (Umbau-Industrie)

44 delivered to RLM from Nachrüst-betr.

Thus a total of 155 (224 - 113 = 111 + 44 = 155) aircraft taken over by GenQu.
42 delivered to Lw.Kdo.West and 113 to specifically reported units:
25 I./JG 7
10 II./JG 7
7 III./JG 7
13 I./K.G.(J) 54
19 II./K.G.(J) 54
28 III./K.G.(J) 54
6 III./K.G.(J) 6
3 10./N.J.G.11
1 Fl.Ü.G.1
1 Jgd.Verb.44

Schul:
Me 262
13 new from industry, 3 from nachrüst-betr. and 3 from umbau. = 19 in total taken over by GenQu

9 III./E.J.G.2
3 IV./E.K.G.1
4 Fl.Ü.G.1
2 II./J.G.7
1 II./E.K.G.(J)


Of interest?

Regards,
Andreas B

Re: EZ 42 in FW 190
 

HI Andreas,

That's very interesting!

Does the document tell to which Nachrüst/Umbau-Betriebe the Me 262s went?

Is the EZ42 also mentioned with regard to the Me 262?

Regards
Roger Gaemperle

Re: EZ 42 in FW 190
 

Andreas,

looks very promising, allthough the documents sound familiar. I sent you an e-mail for further infromation.

Cheers,

John.

Re: EZ 42 in FW 190
 

Please give a list of the aircraft deliverd with the EZ42. Your example above of the ME 262 info. doesn't list which aircraft had the EZ42 installed.

I have never seen any information on the EZ42 being installed in Bf-109's. I don't believe it would have fit in the cockpit in any practical way.

I have read the TA-152 was supposed to have it, but have never seen any proof so far.

From what mixed info. I have about the EZ42,

Delivered,
27 or 28 x FW 190D-9's with EZ42
4 x FW190D-11's with EZ42

As I collect gunsights, I constantly look for the EZ42 among others in all pics I come across. In the last 10 years I have found pics of it installed in only four aircraft. If there's more please be so kind as to post them.

I've seen pics of the EZ42 in

FW 190A-8, operational
FW 190D-9, operational
ME 262, testing
Do 335B-2, testing

Regards,
Mike

Re: EZ 42 in FW 190
 

Dear All

I can confirm , as I have seen a clear picture depciting it that EZ 42 was installed in a Fw 190D-11.

All the best

Eric

Re: EZ 42 in FW 190
 

According to Obb. Forschungsanstalt, E-Stelle Tarnewitz had an order to equip 8-109 aircraft of JG 300 with the EZ 42 for operational testing and to ensure installtion in a manner corresponding to future series production.

Hal

Re: EZ 42 in FW 190
 

I don't believe this was ever accomplished. The EZ is a big sight to try a squeeze in the Bf-109. Wishful thinking perhaps on the Germans.

Mike

Re: EZ 42 in FW 190
 

There`s not that much of a difference between the 109 and 190 canopy dimensions actually, they are pretty much the same size. For example, post-war Czech produced 109s airframes were fitted with FW 190D-9 canopies of the blown type and they seem to fit nice.

Fritz Hahn notes in his classic book on LW aircraft armament that some 200 FW 190s and Me 262s were fitted with the EZ 42. Perhaps he used the same source..?