Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
 

Hi

Looking for any Ar196 losses in the Aegean on the 17-6-44. Three were claimed by 227 and 16 SAAF Sqns.

Regards

David

Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
 

On 17.06.44 the 4./S.A.Gr. 126 reported at least one Ar 196 lost to enemy aircraft in the Ägean. Unfortunatlely, no further info available. There should be a Namentliche Verlustmeldung somewhere.

Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
 

I have a badly burned NVM for an Uffz Rudolf (unreadable) born 3 Jan 1921 in Madgeburg who was wounded in combat SE Peloponnes in combat with 9 Beaufighters and yes it was 4/126

Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
 

Dave Wadman

Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
 

Dave Wadman supplied this info:-

"Here are two to choose from which may fit the bill, both from SAGr. 126":

Ar 196 W.Nr623010, D1+AN s/d in combat with Beaufighters SE of the Peloponnese, Qu. 3752-23Ost
Uffz Paduch (F), Ltn Böcking (B) both safe.

Ar 196 W.Nr100505, D1+FE s/d in combat with Beaufighters SE of the Peloponnese, Qu. 3752-23Ost
Ogfr Schramm (F), Uffz Busse (B - LWIA)

David

Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
 

Guys

I have never before seen any WNr for the Ar 196 being quoted like this.

Can somone explain what batches these Ar 196 came from?
Since production is quoted as 505, I have losses in the range of 0007 - 0437 and 1001-1017 + two odd ones, 2520 and 2591

It does not leave much room for other batches... :confused:

Cheers
Stig

Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
 

Hi Stig

I have a Ar196A-5 with W.Nr 1960290 which was dam 35% in aircombat, does this apppear in your list ?

David

Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
 

@David

The Ar 196 you mentioned D1+AN (5. Staffel) and D1+FE (19. Staffel) could`nt belong to 126. Aufklärungsgruppe with only 4 Staffel. How do you explain that?

Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
 

Hi byron

As I said in the post above I got the info from Dave Wadman, perhaps he could tell us more ?

Were did you get 5 and 19 Staffel from ?

Regards

David

Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
 

The two WNr. for the losses given by David Wadman are confusing.
WNr. 623010 seems to be a Fokker production aircraft, but it does not fit the range given by Tom Willis here .

WNr. 100505 is even more of a mystery: 1960505 seems far too high. Another possibility is WNr. 1005, which could explain the E in D1+FE as a leftover from its SKZ (DH+ZE).

@David
WNr. 1960290 is not in my list! Do you have more details?

Hans