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Alain57 10th March 2008 14:40

Ju-52/3 M KGzbV 5 may 10th 1940 Belgium
 
Hello,

Who can help me with additional info on this lost :

10/05/1940
Vroenhoven area ( Belgium )
Ju-52/3 M - / KGzbV 5
Daum ( KIA )
Francke ( KIA )
Grimm ( KIA )

RudiS 10th March 2008 15:03

Re: Ju-52/3 M KGzbV 5 may 10th 1940 Belgium
 
I can't help you with information on the plane or it's crew, but on the 10th of may, as part of "Fall Gelb" (the invasion of Holland, Belgium and France), there was on operation called "Stahl, Beton, Eisen, Granit"

Stahl (steel) = taking of the bridge over the Albert canal at Veldwezelt, Belgium
Beton (concrete) = taking of the bridge over the Albert canal at Vroenhoven, Belgium
Eisen ( iron) = taking of the bridge over the Albert canal at Kanne, Belgium
Granit (granite) = the attack on the fortress of Eben-Emael, Belgium.

Your Ju 52 probably took part in one of those missions.

Alain57 10th March 2008 15:15

Re: Ju-52/3 M KGzbV 5 may 10th 1940 Belgium
 
Thanks Bugger.

Alain

David Lenk 11th March 2008 15:02

Re: Ju-52/3 M KGzbV 5 may 10th 1940 Belgium
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alain57 (Post 61415)
Hello,

Who can help me with additional info on this lost :

10/05/1940
Vroenhoven area ( Belgium )
Ju-52/3 M - / KGzbV 5
Daum ( KIA )
Francke ( KIA )
Grimm ( KIA )


Sturmgruppe Beton

Unteroffizier Daum (Glider Pilot)
17/KG zbV 5 (Code name for glider group)
Killed 10.05.1940 by Vroenhoven


Obergefreiter Franke
FallschirmJg with SturmAbteilung Koch
Killed 10.05.1940 by Vroenhoven


Gefreiter Grimm
FallschirmJg with SturmAbteilung Koch
Killed 10.05.1940 by Vroenhoven

What is you source?

What information do you have?

Regards

David Lenk
FJ Collector

RudiS 11th March 2008 16:47

Re: Ju-52/3 M KGzbV 5 may 10th 1940 Belgium
 
Found this :
Op Belgisch gebied zijn dicht bij de Nederlandse grens op 10 mei nog neergekomen:
-Ju-52 van KGr zbV 5 bij VROENHOVEN (Pütz p.269, nr 363). Gesn: Uffz Walter Daum en de
Fallschirmjäger Erich Francke en Werner Grimm. Te Maastricht begr; thans Ystn resp. BZ-115,
BZ, BZ-290 en BZ-120.
overhere: http://roermond19391945.yourbb.nl/viewtopic.php?p=193

Translated :
Crashed on Belgian territory near the Dutch border on may the 10th :
-Ju-52 from KGr zbV 5 near Vroenhoven (Pütz p 269, nr 363) :
Killed : Uffz Walter Daum & Paratroopers Erich Francke & Werner Grimm. Burried in Maastricht (The Netherlands), now at Ysselsteyn numbers BZ-115, BZ-290 & BZ-120

RudiS 11th March 2008 17:17

Re: Ju-52/3 M KGzbV 5 may 10th 1940 Belgium
 
Also found some more Info on the crew here: http://www.grebbeberg.nl/ereveld/reg...p?view=&type=4

Translated :

Name: Walter Daum
Rank: Unteroffizier
Unit: KGr zbV 5 (60540)
Unit code: JU52
Date of birth: 07-05-1910
Place of birth: Rüsselsheim
Date killed: 10-05-1940
Place killed: Vroenhoven (Be)
Originally buried: Maastricht ABP Tongerseweg
Reburied: Ysselsteyn, end 1948
IJsselsteijn nr.: BZ-115
IJsselsteijn vak: BZ
Remarks:
Part of the crew of a Ju-52. See Pütz p.269 (nr.363)

Name: Erich Francke
Rank: Obergefreiter
Unit: FJ (60550)
Unit code: FEE
Date of birth: 29-07-1919
Place of birth: Gahlhem-Calau
Date killed: 10-05-1940
Place killed: Vroenhoven (Be)
Originally buried: Maastricht ABP Tongerseweg
Reburied: Ysselsteyn, end 1948
IJsselsteijn nr.: BZ-290
IJsselsteijn vak: BZ
Remarks:
Killed by crash of a Ju-52 of KGr zbV 5. See Pütz p.269 (nr 363)

Name: Werner Grimm
Rank: Gefreiter
Unit: (60550) Fallschirmjäger
Unit code: FEE
Date of birth: 21-04-1920
Place of birth: Wermelskirchen
Date killed: 10-05-1940
Place killed: Vroenhoven (Be)
Originally buried: Maastricht ABP Tongerseweg
Reburied: Ysselsteyn, end 1948
IJsselsteijn nr.: BZ-120
IJsselsteijn vak: BZ
Remarks:
Killed by crash of a Ju-52 of KGr zbV 5. See Pütz p.269 (nr 363)

So it looks that NCO Walter Daum was killed three days after his 30th birthday.

Hope this helps,
Rudi.

RudiS 11th March 2008 18:27

Re: Ju-52/3 M KGzbV 5 may 10th 1940 Belgium
 
The book the above sites are referring to, is probably this one:
Title: Duel in de wolken (Duel in the clouds)
Author : Ron Pütz (apparantly deceased)
ISBN : 90.6881.0375
Publishers : Van Soeren - 1994
Language : Dutch

I don't have a copy, but maybe some of our dutch friends do.


Hope this will help,
Rudi.

Alain57 12th March 2008 08:23

Re: Ju-52/3 M KGzbV 5 may 10th 1940 Belgium
 
Thanks gentlemen for the help.

Alain


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