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Dean M. Wick 2nd July 2008 21:20

Johannes Seifert
 
Greetings: As I didn't draw any bites on my "Mueller" inquiry, I thought I'd try another kind of obscure question relating to Bf110 pilots. Johannes Seifert,KIA with II/JG26 on 25.11.43(57 Vic.) was apparently a Zerstorer pilot during the Polish campaign, before tranferring to S/E fighters with JG26. Eimannsbergers book on I(laterV)/LG1 has crew lists for the campaign, but he is not listed there( but, then again, neither are Laufs and Hermann, who are reported to have flown in I/LG1). Of the 3 Zerstorergruppen involved, Does anyone know which unit he may have flown with? Any comments appreciated. Cheers Dean

robert 2nd July 2008 21:47

Re: Johannes Seifert
 
Hi,

Peter Laufs even reported one victory on the 01.09.39 and was with 2(Z)/LG1 as well as Kurt Hermann.
Please tell us from what source you took information that Seifert took part on PC?

Regards

Robert

Dean M. Wick 3rd July 2008 02:16

Re: Johannes Seifert
 
Hi Robert, nice to hear from you. The site I got this from is www.luftwaffe.cz/seifert.html. I've always been curious as well about Hermannn and Laufs, who are both credited with Victories with I/LG1 in the Polish campaign, and then, if my Intel. is correct, went to Z/KG30, and subsequently to intruder Ops. with NJG2. Again, any help on any of these names most welcome. Thanks Dean.

Doug Stankey 3rd July 2008 07:09

Re: Johannes Seifert
 
Hi guys!

The info we have is ambiguous on this point. Here is all we have on this guy:

SEIFERT, Johannes.
(Date of Birth: 06.10.15 in Pinneberg/Holstein).
Nickname: “Hannes”.
24.11.37 Lt. at FFS C Celle (later FFS C 7).
09.39 with a Zerstörer unit. –this is from the website www.luftwaffe.cz
01.03.40 Hptm., appt Staka 3./JG 26 (to 10.07.41).
11.07.41 Maj., appt Kdr. I./JG 26 (to 31.05.43).
01.01.42 Kdr. I./JG 26 (to at least 31.12.42).
25.02.42 Hptm., awarded DKG, I./JG 26.
07.06.42 Hptm., awarded Ritterkreuz, Kdr. I./JG 26. 06.43 trf to the Führerreserve (to 09.43).
01.06.43 Major, appt to a position on the staff of the German mission to Bulgaria.
09.09.43 Obstlt., appt Kdr. II./JG 26 (to 25.11.43).
25.11.43 KIA – collided with a P-38 Lightning that he had just shot down near Bethune.
(n.d.) posthumously promo to Obstlt.
Credited with 439 combat missions and 57 air victories.

Good luck.

Larry deZeng IV
Doug Stankey

robert 3rd July 2008 09:18

Re: Johannes Seifert
 
Well I will say that only possibility would be I/ZG1 (if Bf110 unit) and II/ZG1 (if Bf109 unit).

Regards

Robert

Dean M. Wick 3rd July 2008 18:02

Re: Johannes Seifert
 
Doug: Thanks for your input. At least this gives me his start date with JG26. Robert, you have a point about II/ZG1 ( Jgr101).I was thinking purely Bf110. Of course, several "zerstorer" units were still flying Bf109's at that time. Cheers. Dean.

robert 3rd July 2008 18:29

Re: Johannes Seifert
 
Hi,

I just mentioned two Luftwaffe fighter units (ZG) with personnel rosters far to be completed - It`s only my guess.

Robert

Tom Semenza 4th July 2008 21:48

Re: Johannes Seifert
 
I believe that the info on Seifert's Zerstörer connection probably originated from Obermeier's Die Ritterkreuzträger der Luftwaffe in which is stated that Seifert took part in the Polish Campaign as a Zerstörer pilot (...nahm als Zerstörerflieger am Polenfeldzug teil...) unfortunately without further elaboration.

Tom

Evgeny Velichko 23rd February 2013 16:37

Re: Johannes Seifert
 
A bit necropost, but a little more info:

Johannes Seifert (Jagdflieger) is not the same pilot as Kurt Seifert (Zerstorerflieger).

Kurt Seifert was a pilot and Oblt. in 4./ZG26 in early 1942, and when 4./ZG26 became 4./ZG2 he was appt. its StaKa.
Around may 1942, he went to StaKa 2./ZG1 only to be shot down on 03.06.42 o Eastern Front.

If Kurt Seifert is meant to have combat action during PC, so he must be with I./ZG2 (and later went to ZG26 in autumn 1940 with ZG2's disbandment).

byron- 23rd February 2013 23:12

Re: Johannes Seifert
 
Here a pic of Jahannes Seifert


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