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tcolvin 2nd October 2008 00:59

Can anyone identify these aircraft?
 
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There were two aircraft visible behind this picture of an Ar196 of 1 Staffel Bordfliegergruppe 196 on the apron of the Fliegerdeich air base in Wilhelmshaven.

Is there anyone who can identify them, please?

Tony

obdl3945 2nd October 2008 02:03

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Hi, Tony...

They're Junkers W34s, floatplane version, similar to attached thumbnail.

Regards...

tcolvin 2nd October 2008 09:46

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Originally Posted by obdl3945 (Post 74163)
Hi, Tony...

They're Junkers W34s, floatplane version, similar to attached thumbnail.

Regards...

Thank you.
I see they were used to train pilots and radio operators, which is of course what they were doing.
Tony

Stig Jarlevik 2nd October 2008 19:28

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Tony

Since one of them carries a civil registration pre-fixed by WL it is also possible to say the photo was approximately taken in late 1939 or early 1940.

Has anyone any exact dates when WL prefixed civil registered aeroplanes were in use??

Cheers
Stig

obdl3945 3rd October 2008 04:57

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Hi, Stig...

The 'WL' (Wermacht Luft) coding was used from 1 January until 24 October, 1939. It was used to denote military aircraft used for training purposes during this brief period, prior to which all civil and second-line military machines had used the nationality code 'D' as a prefix to their registration code. After the change in coding, 'D' was reserved for exclusive use on civil machines.

There were some exceptions to the use of 'WL' in relation to small aircraft with restricted fuselage space, and other types, such as armed trainers, were seen in operational use during the Polish campaign with the 'WL' coding.

Above information in Luftwaffe Camouflage, 1935-40 by Alain Fleuret (Kookabura)

Regards...

Stig Jarlevik 3rd October 2008 21:20

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Thanks Lowlander (nor sure if you are classified as highlander or not:)), but it feels kind of stupid to refer you to obdl3945...)

Since I have the book you refer to (and browsed through it yesterday, found nothing in particular) can you say where this is mentioned?

Anyway it is nice to get dates to these markings. I had in the back of my mind they came to around late 1939 and lasted roughly to spring 1940, which shows one should not rely on that place if it can be avoided...:o

Cheers
Stig

obdl3945 3rd October 2008 23:38

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Hi, Stig...

Lowlander is just fine... :).

To answer your query, bottom of page 76, continuing at top of page 79.

Regards...

Paul

tcolvin 4th October 2008 11:15

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Thank you for all of this.
You might be interested in the complete photo, an aerial of the apron where the photo was taken, and the site today which is under the Helgolandhaus apartments.
I'm sure all of the activity concerned getting the Admiral Graf Spee and Admiral Hipper to sea in August 1939.

Stig Jarlevik 4th October 2008 21:05

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Cheers Paul:)

Thanks I found it
Stig


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