Karl-Heinz Weber 08Jun43
 

While looking at Tony Woods List for this date at Weber's claims, I found these two claims. LaGG-5 63 113:at 800 m. 19:15 and Il-4 64 844: tiefflug 19:18. The first is north of Orel and the second is south of Mtsenska. Could the first be incorrect on the location? 3 minutes even in a Fw 190 seems to be a long ways from one point to another and locate some Il-2's flying almost at ground level.