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Chris Goss 15th October 2008 18:22

II/KG 4 at Amsterdam, Jun 40
 
Does anyone have any confirmation that II (in particular 6 Staffel)/KG 4 ever operated out of Amsterdam-Schiphol and apart from Hptm Storp of 8/KG 4 on 3 Jun 40, did any other Ju 88s crash-land on the airfield prior to 18 Jun 40?

Ruy Horta 15th October 2008 18:57

Re: II/KG 4 at Amsterdam, Jun 40
 
Do you have access to Ab Jansen's Schiphol books?

Chris Goss 15th October 2008 19:33

Re: II/KG 4 at Amsterdam, Jun 40
 
Afraid not

Ruy Horta 15th October 2008 20:23

Re: II/KG 4 at Amsterdam, Jun 40
 
Ok, I'll take a look later this evening and see if it answers your question(s).

RT 15th October 2008 21:14

Re: II/KG 4 at Amsterdam, Jun 40
 
Hello Chris

8.KG4 Schipol ram a balloon bellylanding JU88 100% 1 wounded

remi

Ruy Horta 15th October 2008 21:35

Re: II/KG 4 at Amsterdam, Jun 40
 
Others with hard data will probably be able to give you better info, but from Fliegerhorst Schiphol by Ab Jansen, it looks like:

Only III./KG 4 Operated from Schiphol

First as a staging area, later in 1940 as their operational field.

Specifically listed are:

June 13th
Ju 88 A-1 5J+JT Wnr 244
crew killed

No mention of II./KG 4

There's a 2./KG 30 Ju 88 4D+BZ that crashed on take off on July 13th.

The other Gruppen operated from Eindhoven and Soesterberg.

But I guess you'll probably have more in depth information than I can provide from a book :)

RT 15th October 2008 21:42

Re: II/KG 4 at Amsterdam, Jun 40
 
June 13th
Ju 88 A-1 5J+JT Wnr 244
crew killed


This one crashed near Amsterdam, so maybe not in Schipol, II.KG4 didn't operate Ju88, but He111P, just the III. Group operates Junkers

Remi

Chris Goss 16th October 2008 09:59

Re: II/KG 4 at Amsterdam, Jun 40
 
Ruy/Remi: Reason why I ask is I have 2 photos of a 6/KG 4 crew looking over a crash-landed Ju 88 and according to the back, photo was taken at Amsterdam. This crew was shot down on 19 Jun 40 so rules out 13 Jul crash and the fact that the ac is fairly intact probably rules out 13 Jun crash which leads me towards Storp's crash-landing 3 Jun 40

Ruy Horta 16th October 2008 12:49

Re: II/KG 4 at Amsterdam, Jun 40
 
I'll dig some more into Jansen this evening, perhaps there are better candidates.

RT 17th October 2008 13:18

Re: II/KG 4 at Amsterdam, Jun 40
 
8.KG4 Schipol ram a balloon bellylanding JU88 100% 1 wounded

Sorry I forgot the date 3 rd of June 40

Remi


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