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RT 30th January 2009 23:26

AR234
 
The 1.F123/Kdo Götz hv 2 Ar234 in okt.44 4U+MH/4U+GH they are also named V-7, man could understand, nd more obscure S 12..

Remi

Eric GUILLAUME 31st January 2009 00:11

Re: AR234
 
Rémi,

Ar 234 S1 to S20 were Wnr. 140101 to 140120

Eric

edNorth 31st January 2009 01:21

Re: AR234
 
Remi,

130007 Ar 234 V7 (Prototype B series engine development, Skid undercarriage, 2 x Jumo 003 B-0 production engines) GK+IX ff by Plt. Walter Kröger on 22.06.1944 - Fitted out with recce cameras for special flights on the Western Front - T9+MH 1.(V)/Ob.d.L (Oranienburg) July 1944 - Flown to Jovincourt/Reims by Oblt. Erich Sommer 25.07.1944 (but there it waited seven days for its takeoff trolley to arrive) - Flown by Oblt. Erich Sommer on the worlds first operational Turbojet Recce flight over the Allied forces in Normandy invasion area on 02.08.1944 - Chievres 24.08.1944 - Volkel - Rhine 09.1944 - Unit renamed Kdo Götz - Kdo Hecht - Flown to Berlin/Oranienburg f. repair 09.11.1944 (but withdrawn from service)

140112 Ar 234 B-012 / S12 GM+BL ff ...08.1944 (The first production machine to be fitted with two Rb 50/30 recce cameras) tfd 23.08.1944 Kdo Sperling - T9+GH 22.09.1944 - (Flown by Oblt. Horst Götz) - 1.(V)/Ob.d.L (06.11.1944) Kdo Sperling (Oblt. Horst Götz)

cheers´
ed

RT 1st February 2009 22:12

Re: AR234
 
Many thks folks, on 17.oct. they hv new ones EH nd IH, any idea of the
Wn ??

Remi

Peter D Evans 1st February 2009 22:21

Re: AR234
 
Both entries reproduced from "Arado Ar234 Blitz" by Smith & Creek [Monogram, 1992]

WNr.140344 - NM+BR, first flew Nov 25th 1944 to Kommando Hecht and later Kommando Sommer as T9+EH. Flown by Oblt.Sommer and fitted with a Magirusbombe gun pack. Written off after Sommer attempted a main-wheels up landing at Udine on Apr 16th 1945

WNr.140154 - SM+FN - to Kdo Sperling as T9+IH, flown by Oblt.Sommer, to Kdo Hecht, destroyed December 24th 1944.

cheers
Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

RT 1st February 2009 23:26

Re: AR234
 
Hecht Götz, Sperling So the only one who didn't his own kdo was Sommer, who maybe flown the more flights with the 234

many thks Peter

Remi

ianatheling 16th February 2010 00:14

Re: AR234
 
The first Ar 234 Sonderkommando was Götz, commanded by Horst Götz and including Eric Sommer. This flew over Normandy in August 1944. In September the unit was expanded and changed its name to Sperling, Götz was still the commander. However in November a new Sonderkommando known as Hecht was set up at Biblis. It was commanded by Sommer (who was the only pilot). In January 1945 Hecht was supposed to merge with 1.(F)/100. The next stage was drawn out, but by middle of March Eric Sommer was the commander of Sonderkommando Sommer in Italy.

Nick Beale 16th February 2010 00:22

Re: AR234
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RT (Post 80691)
Hecht Götz, Sperling So the only one who didn't his own kdo was Sommer, who maybe flown the more flights with the 234

many thks Peter

Remi

Yes he did — take a look at this.

Khorat 16th February 2010 00:23

Re: AR234
 
if Sommer was the only pilot in Biblis (Ar 234) why then there was 3 Ar 234 ?
(visible at a wartime privat movie taken in Biblis in Dezember 1944)

khorat

Nick Beale 16th February 2010 00:48

Re: AR234
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Khorat (Post 101587)
if Sommer was the only pilot in Biblis (Ar 234) why then there was 3 Ar 234 ?
(visible at a wartime privat movie taken in Biblis in Dezember 1944)

khorat

Don't know but there is considerable decrypted message traffic about Sommer's flights from Biblis and no other aircraft or pilot is mentioned with Hecht IIRC.


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