Ju.52/3m P4+FH, Transportstaffel Fliegerfuhrer Nord (Ost)
 

Hi,
There's a picture of this sky-equipped aircraft in Martin Pegg's "Transporter" Vol.1 (page 47). A friend told me he had found (and since lost) another picture of the same aircraft - a side view this time - over the net, but I haven't been able to trace it.
Anybody has a link - or a book title maybe?

Thank You for Your Help!

Alessandro

Re: Ju.52/3m P4+FH, Transportstaffel Fliegerfuhrer Nord (Ost)
 

Hi Alessandro,

a tough call. The only other photo of a ski-equipped Ju52 that I can immediately trace is page 42 of Manfred Griehl's 'An allen Fronten im Einzatz). This is an all-dark machine without a visible unit emblem and the fuselage code is largely obscured. I'll have a look through the various photos of Ju52s that I have yet to catalogue to see if there are any more.

As for the P4+FH machine - some points to consider:

from what I can see I think it is a g4e conversion (cannot see a starboard side crew door behind the cockpit) from the pre-war batch painted a dark colour overall (see my post on the 'RLM64' hypothesis) but with winter-white on upper surfaces. This makes it a perfect conversion subject for Revell's 1/48 kit (that strictly can only be built from the box as a g4e or early g6e). Also, this aircraft had clearly served with 2/KGrzbV 9 as the 'angel carrying suitcases' emblem is still on the fuselage nose (as per page 51 of Transporter Vol.1).

I'll let you know if I find anything else.

Cheers

GrahamB

Re: Ju.52/3m P4+FH, Transportstaffel Fliegerfuhrer Nord (Ost)
 

Hi Allesandro,

a few more notes. P4+FH was werknummer 6363 (mid g4e range).
In Heinz Nowarra's 'Junkers 52' Schiffer paperback, p11 there is good front view of DERULUFT'S 4052/D-AXES (later NK+VQ). Not immediately relevant but shows that skis were not fixed items and easily replaced by wheels - and vice versa.

Cheers

GrahamB

Re: Ju.52/3m P4+FH, Transportstaffel Fliegerfuhrer Nord (Ost)
 

GrahamB

D-AXES was Ju 52 c/n 4052 but this was destroyed (80%) in a crash at Berlin Tempelhof inbound from Croydon on 24/12/37.

You also quote NK+VQ for this a/c but this vbkz was used on a Ju 88 A-17

Regards

Tony

Re: Ju.52/3m P4+FH, Transportstaffel Fliegerfuhrer Nord (Ost)
 

Hi Tony,

thanks for the correction for the vbkz/wrknr link - I'll have to see where this piece of information came from. I'm sure there are many errors in my dtb of Ju52 information but I'm not in a position to go back to the first source, usually.

Cheers

Graham

Re: Ju.52/3m P4+FH, Transportstaffel Fliegerfuhrer Nord (Ost)
 

Found the pics!
There are two more in "German Aircrafts in Finland 1939-1945" by Keskinen and Stenman (Apali). It's on wheels, but I'm nearly 100% sure it's the same a/c, the livery matches perfectly.

Thanks for the hint about the version - I couldn't make out the right side door from the pic in "transporter", but I think it's present, as IIRC the first window sits a bit lower than the others (when there's no door, all the windows are lined up). I don't have the pics here at the moment, but definitely I'll have another look. Will post again if I discover something good!

Thank You for Your Help

Alessandro