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steve sheridan 15th February 2009 20:49
Gen.Mjr.Wolf Von Stutterheim KG77
 
Hi, can anybody provide the usual loss details for the incident involving
Von Stutterheim on 22.6.40 with the Stab.st. KG77.
Im lead to believe Oblt Koch and Lt Gauder were part of the crew, if im not mistaken.
Any help would be appreciated.

Rgs,
Steve.

Doug Stankey 16th February 2009 00:17
Re: Gen.Mjr.Wolf Von Stutterheim KG77
 
Concerning this loss, we have:

15.06.40 Gen.Maj., Kommodore KG 77 WIA badly, Do 17Z shot down by GC II/7 W of Neufchâteau, crash landed near Leurville 3:15 PM – treated at a field hospital at St. Dizier, airlifted to Berlin the next day but later died of injuries.
04.07.40 awarded Ritterkreuz.
†03.12.40 in Berlin from wounds.

Battle of France, Then and Now page 477 has some additional details.

shot down by Cdt. Mümler , S/Lt. Valentin, Sgt. Martin, Sgt. Passemard.

Oblt. G.Esch bailed out and landed slightly wounded.
Lt. R. Gaude also wounded.
Fw. H. Herrig bailed out but killed by fighters while hanging in his parachute
Fw. O. Jelinek was killed in the aircraft.

LdZ
DGS

steve sheridan 16th February 2009 11:53
Re: Gen.Mjr.Wolf Von Stutterheim KG77
 
Good morning Doug,
many thanks for the confirmation of the demise of Von Stutterheim and additional detail.
I dont know where i got the date from, perhaps it was perhaps an update within the GQM6 loss lists?

Do you happen to have the crew functions detail or first names, or indeed anybody else looking at this who maybe might be able to help?

Best regs,
Steve.

Peter Cornwell 17th February 2009 16:35
Re: Gen.Mjr.Wolf Von Stutterheim KG77
 
Stab KG77 Dornier Do17Z. Believed shot down by Cdt Mümler, S/Lt Valentin, Sgt Grimaud, Sgt Martin, and Sgt Passemard of GC II/7 west of Neufchâteau and crash-landed near Leurville 3.15 p.m. FF Oberlt Georg Esch slightly wounded, Gen-Major Wolff von Stutterheim (Geschwaderkommodore) badly wounded - treated in field hospital at St-Dizier, air-lifted to Berlin next day where died of injuries December 3, BO Lt Rudolf Gaude baled out and captured slightly wounded near Taliseul next day – later released, BM Fw Heinz Herrig baled out but killed by fighters while in his parachute, BF Fw Otto Jelinek died in the aircraft. Aircraft 3Z+AA 100% write-off.

Franek Grabowski 17th February 2009 18:16
Re: Gen.Mjr.Wolf Von Stutterheim KG77
 
What is the source on claimants?

Peter Cornwell 18th February 2009 10:38
Re: Gen.Mjr.Wolf Von Stutterheim KG77
 
Franek,

Source for claimants was Gillet VCF Vol.3 p142.

Franek Grabowski 18th February 2009 14:18
Re: Gen.Mjr.Wolf Von Stutterheim KG77
 
Polish sources indicate that Muemler shared his victory with Nowakiewicz. Perhaps Greg S can elaborate more on the topic, but there is a serious question of reliability of Gillet's list.

Peter Cornwell 18th February 2009 15:53
Re: Gen.Mjr.Wolf Von Stutterheim KG77
 
That may well be so Franek, but can you recommend a better source for such details ?

robert 18th February 2009 17:24
Re: Gen.Mjr.Wolf Von Stutterheim KG77
 
Gillet`s list is relying on unit`s history or unit`s official documents so please tell us these Polish sources, which are more reliable than unit`s history? Perhaps this is book of W.Krol wrote some dozens years after the war?

Robert

steve sheridan 19th February 2009 11:08
Re: Gen.Mjr.Wolf Von Stutterheim KG77
 
Peter, thanks ever so much for the loss details, this helps enormously.

Best regs,
Steve.


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