Hptm Robert Weiss's first claim on D-9
 

Good night to all!
On 28th September 1944, Hptm Robert Weiss from III/JG 54 claimed the first victory ever scored by a Fw 190 D-9. ( against a 541 Squadron Spitfire ). I would like to obtain some help with the MARKINGS and werknummer of the aircraft Hptm Weiss flew on this mission?
Was it the same Black 10 he flew on his last mission on 29th December 1944?
Yours
Adriano Baumgartner

Re: Hptm Robert Weiss's first claim on D-9
 

The following link http://tinyurl.com/dfk5ng show a small image of the A/craft flown by Weiss. As you can see there is no W.Nr. Listed. Not sure if you already have these details

"Black 10" Fw 190 A-8 W. Nr. not known
Pilot: Robert Weiss Stab III. JG 54 June 1944 Villacoublay France
This is the machine of noted Knight's Cross holder Hptm. Robert "Bazi" Weiss, Gruppenkommandeur (II. Gruppe). The small "Black 10" is noteworthy.

This link http://users.hol.gr/~nowi/luftprof/jg54/jg54.html also shows a coloured image of the same aircraft

Kind regards
Ross

Re: Hptm Robert Weiss's first claim on D-9
 

There are no known photos of the Fw 190D-9 flown by Hptm. Robert "Bazi" Weiss.
There are only some speculations that his Fw 190D-9 probably had the small black 10 as his Fw 190A-8 had.

IIRC Bazi’s D-9 was W.Nr. 210060.

Re: Hptm Robert Weiss's first claim on D-9
 

Ross and Mike,
I have seen both profiles, of the Fw 190 A-8 flown by Weiss over the Normandy Front, as well as his last mount, Fw 190 D-9, Black 10, serial 210060.
I do know that generally, a pilot has his "OWN" machine. However, frequently, due to the shortage of pieces of rechange, or accidents and hits by enemy fire; his machine could be unserviceable at the time for a mission.
I do know that Mr Urbanke wrote a fabulous book about the Doras in Combat. I would like to know IF on the mission in question ( 28th September 1944 ), which machine Hptm Weiss was flying? I can presume that it was his Dora-9 "Black 10", but can not be certain. It could have been another machine...
Yours,
Adriano Baumgartner

Re: Hptm Robert Weiss's first claim on D-9
 

I think he was flying his regular machine, but I'm at work now and can't check Urbankes book.