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Flupke 27th March 2009 08:59

56th FG 28 september 1944
 
Hello to all

I am looking for the crash place of the 2nd Lt Pitts Walter H. (KIA)O-770393
56th FG 63rd FS 28 September 1944 , the serial of the A/C was probably #42-28822

Many thanks in advance
Phil

drgondog 27th March 2009 16:27

Re: 56th FG 28 september 1944
 
Pitts KIA after crashing into ground or trees while strafing southwest of Koblenz

Flupke 27th March 2009 18:36

Re: 56th FG 28 september 1944
 
I have the same information but the 28 September the area was not yet in allied hands and there is no MACR for that loss!! so he probably went down much more west than Koblenz ,

Horst Weber 27th March 2009 19:11

Re: 56th FG 28 september 1944
 
@ Flupke & drgondog !

You are right. 2nd Lt. Pitts came down in allied territory in Luxembourg. His crash-location is Hupperdingen, local district "Knupp", according to the most serious sources from there.

Those circumstances may explain, why no MACR was compiled.

Lt. Col. Schilling was right in his aereal positioning, giving an appx. position as Speicher and Herforst. The distance from Lt. Col. suspected position to 2nd Lt. Pitts crash-location is only about 47 km WNW.

2nd Lt. Pitts remains are now resting at Henry-Chapelle Permanent Cemetary in Belgium.

Hope, this helps.

Horst Weber

Flupke 27th March 2009 20:32

Re: 56th FG 28 september 1944
 
As usual , Many thanks Horst , very interesting information !!

However I have a doubt
At Hupperdingen it was maybe the 1st Lt Nangle Mc Elroy (KIA)O-670960 362nd FG 377th FS E4-D 42-28446 loss during a training flight


Regards
Phil

drgondog 27th March 2009 22:10

Re: 56th FG 28 september 1944
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horst Weber (Post 83688)
@ Flupke & drgondog !

You are right. 2nd Lt. Pitts came down in allied territory in Luxembourg. His crash-location is Hupperdingen, local district "Knupp", according to the most serious sources from there.

Those circumstances may explain, why no MACR was compiled.

Lt. Col. Schilling was right in his aereal positioning, giving an appx. position as Speicher and Herforst. The distance from Lt. Col. suspected position to 2nd Lt. Pitts crash-location is only about 47 km WNW.

2nd Lt. Pitts remains are now resting at Henry-Chapelle Permanent Cemetary in Belgium.

Hope, this helps.

Horst Weber

excellent feedback - and that does explain no macr

Horst Weber 28th March 2009 02:56

Re: 56th FG 28 september 1944
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flupke (Post 83695)
As usual , Many thanks Horst , very interesting information !!

However I have a doubt
At Hupperdingen it was maybe the 1st Lt Nangle Mc Elroy (KIA)O-670960 362nd FG 377th FS E4-D 42-28446 loss during a training flight


Regards
Phil

Hi Phil !

Yes, it is doubtful. But much happened in allied territory and is not reported in MACR's. In the cases 1st Lt. Nangle McElroy and 2nd Lt Walter Pitts an individual research via IDPF would certainly clear all questions.

Best wishes !

Horst Weber

Flupke 28th March 2009 08:15

Re: 56th FG 28 september 1944
 
You’re right the IDPF should solve the problem.
1st Lt Nagle was in training flight from Prosne , I think that Hupperdingen is really far from there and also risky for a training (frontline) , however Pitt was coming probably already damaged from the area SEof Bitburg and it’s much more probable that he tried to reach allied lines with a course NE . Hupperdingen seems to be the right place
I will contact John Derneden to see if he had more information on this.

Many thanks Horst

Regards
Phil

Flupke 28th March 2009 11:00

Re: 56th FG 28 september 1944
 
Well gentlemen !!
After a very interesting conversation with my good friend John Derneden , it’s definitively sure it’s well Hupperdingen for the crash site of Lt Pitts , Lt Nangle crashed NE of Prosnes .

Many thanks for your help

Regards
Phil


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