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brewerjerry 31st May 2009 03:23

kg 2 Do-17 with 20mm nose cannon
 
Hi
Just browsed a copy of airdoc, for the Do-17, on one of the pages was a photo captioned as a kg2 Do-17 with a 20mm nose cannon, no dates.
Anyone seen any info on the use of this mod, dates used ?
or any a/c codes for a/c using the 20mm mod ?
cheers
Jerry

link to similar web photo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Do17z_20mm.jpg

obdl3945 31st May 2009 11:02

Re: kg 2 Do-17 with 20mm nose cannon
 
Hi, Jerry...

I've got the Airdoc publication as well, and I presume you're referring to the aircraft at the top of page 39. The caption states it's from I.Gruppe/KG2, so given that the aircraft letter is light-coloured, either white or yellow, it would likely have been coded U5+EH or U5+EL respectively, depending on whether it was 1. or 3. Staffel within the Gruppe. As you will no doubt have noticed, the aircraft on the front cover is also 20mm-armed, and coded 'D', but not shown at a sufficiently clear angle as to determine its full code.

Additionally, in Dornier 17 in focus by Chris Goss (Red Kite), towards the end of the book, under the heading 'Russia' at the bottom of page 91, another such armed machine, unit inknown, with the caption simply stating that it was installed for increased effectiveness at low level, and that this was a modification first used during the Battle of Britain.

I have to admit that my first thought was KG76, as their III.Gruppe was well-practised in low-level attacks such as the Kenley airfield attack during the Battle, and the account provided in Chris's book, page 66, states that the machines of 9.Stffel, KG76 (F1+?T) each had 20mm cannon for use against ground targets, and that this specific unit's crews were unique in having been issued with steel helmets for their protection.

Regards...

Paul

brewerjerry 1st June 2009 02:18

Re: kg 2 Do-17 with 20mm nose cannon
 
Hi Paul,
Dooh, I never actually noticed the cover photo...
Thanks for the detailed reply and info.
There always seems to be something new for me, coming out in photos.
cheers
Jerry

Andy Saunders 1st June 2009 08:54

Re: kg 2 Do-17 with 20mm nose cannon
 
A good many Do 17 Z's of KG2 were armed with a 20mm cannon in the nose during 1940. They may have been specific to Staffeln or Gruppen within the Gescwader. Not sure on that, but someone will know. 9/KG76 also carried nose cannon during the summer 1940 period. I think all of the 9th Staffel aircraft were so equipped.

brewerjerry 2nd June 2009 01:19

Re: kg 2 Do-17 with 20mm nose cannon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Saunders (Post 86807)
A good many Do 17 Z's of KG2 were armed with a 20mm cannon in the nose during 1940. They may have been specific to Staffeln or Gruppen within the Gescwader. Not sure on that, but someone will know. 9/KG76 also carried nose cannon during the summer 1940 period. I think all of the 9th Staffel aircraft were so equipped.

hi andy,
thanks for the reply and info.
cheers
jerry


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