Bf 109G lost in head on collision with P-47D on 22nd June 1944
 

On 22nd June 1944 Lt Boleshaw Kocienski of 510th FS , 405th FG was KIA when his P-47D 'K-Kid' collided head on with a Bf 109G.

Can anyone confirm the Luftwaffe aircraft / pilot/ unit concerned?

BTW - the 510th FS took off at 1947 hrs from Christchurch and their mission was to bomb bridges near Cloyes, SW of Paris so the collision may have occurred in that area. Also I have assumed it was a '109 as this is what was reported by USAAF witnesses to the incident.

Re: Bf 109G lost in head on collision with P-47D on 22nd June 1944
 

Is the name spelled correctly? Can't find anything in the MACR's.

Regards,
Mike

Re: Bf 109G lost in head on collision with P-47D on 22nd June 1944
 

In this area JG 3 and JG 5 lost several Bf 109 in battle with P-47 - but there is no midair collision noted.

khorat

Re: Bf 109G lost in head on collision with P-47D on 22nd June 1944
 

Mike

Same spelling I have

He is buried at the Brittany American Cemetery.

Nothing more except it was 20 or just 21.

regards

MS

Re: Bf 109G lost in head on collision with P-47D on 22nd June 1944
 

Larry,

Dont know if it helps I have a note that on 22nd. June Uffz Walter Demmig of 4/JG5 was KIA 60Km S/W of Paris in Bf109G-6 161127 white 9,

Regards

Brian Bines

Re: Bf 109G lost in head on collision with P-47D on 22nd June 1944
 

MACR 6222, Lt. Boleslaw Kociencki, P-47D 42-76496


Regards,
Mike

Re: Bf 109G lost in head on collision with P-47D on 22nd June 1944
 

The MACR doesn't say anything concerning a collision.

Cheers,

John

Re: Bf 109G lost in head on collision with P-47D on 22nd June 1944
 

Hi,
John Foreman in "Over the Beaches" claimed Kocienski as missing to head-on collision with Bf 109 at Cloyes.

Re: Bf 109G lost in head on collision with P-47D on 22nd June 1944
 

Hi.

I do not believe Demmig is the right one.

According to the NVM he was seen diving in a steep angle after a second run through a formation of 4-engined bombers, without any radio communication... his aircraft was not seen again.

Regards,
Andreas B

Re: Bf 109G lost in head on collision with P-47D on 22nd June 1944
 

Thanks for all your replies.

So the jury is still out whether it was Uffz Walter Demmig of 4/JG5. The time of the collision is given as 22.30 hrs in the MACR so I wonder what time Uffz Walter Demmig was KIA?

Lastly Mike (Revi16) if the MACR's are now online can you provide the link

Once again thanks

Larry